Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Know Your Enemy (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no real consensus, but since this article is just a duplicate of Know Your Enemy, I have deleted it anyway. As Wahoofive stated, WP:ALBUM says not to reflexively disambiguate, so I think the article about the album should just stay at Know Your Enemy. Rich Farmbrough seems to have solved the disambiguation problem anyway by creating Know Your Enemy (disambiguation).  Rob e  rt  T 03:12, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Know Your Enemy (album)
An almost duplicate of Know Your Enemy, so it should be deleted. You should also know the history of the article "Know Your Enemy". Someone first tried to add there text about a non-notable punk-band, which has released only three demos. Then someone kicked the Manic Streets Preachers album out of the page, and changed an article to be primarily about that punk band, and only to mention word's other meanings. The duplicate article "Know Your Enemy (album)" was created. I am also waiting comments about the punk band's notability that some visitors would finally understand that the band hasn't achieved enough to be in Wikipedia. Hapsiainen 10:45, 25 October 2005 (UTC) isn't a member of your band. So you can't keep the article because of it. -Hapsiainen 20:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect. IMO, Know Your Enemy should redirect to Know Your Enemy (album) as that is the preferred format for an album name . Lock the Know Your Enemy redirect if there is potential for consistant reverts to an article about a non-notable band..  This way Know Your Enemy would always be available as a disambiguous if the band became notable, or a book/movie came out with this name.--Isotope23 13:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Au contraire! WP:ALBUM specifically says "Do not reflexively disambiguate" (i.e. don't append (album) when unnecessary). This is also in line with Naming conventions. No vote, pending decision on the punk band. (Procedurally, it would have been better to nominate the punk band for deletion rather than this, but too late now.) &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 15:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected...--Isotope23 16:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The punk band article and the album article edit history are in the same page. If you delete the former, you'll delete the latter, too. I simply reverted the "Know Your Enemy" article to a version without the punk band. You don't have to wait for a decision on it. I have never noticed that they would vote on AfD about a partial deletion of an edit history although such action is technically possible. The cut and paste copy of the album article is not needed, so it is easiler to simply delete it. -Hapsiainen 16:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Now someone reverted the article to the punk band version. The visitor presented these reasons: "This group meets criteria to be found notable, having gone on a national concert tour in a large country, as well as consisting of members which have done the same." Well, they have a website in Myspace, and it shows only gigs in New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut. This can't be a national concert tour. Some band members were part of other bands, but none of those bands is extremely notable. -Hapsiainen 21:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Know Your Enemy if there are any differences, otherwise delete. 00:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete in favour of Know Your Enemy. Delete mention of the nn punk band all together. the wub  "?!"  00:28, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Know Your Enemy (album) Should not be deleted. Know Your Enemy (album) is the preferred format for an album name. Know Your Enemy should be reverted to an article of the punk band version. This group meets criteria to be found notable, having gone on a national concert tour in the US, as well as consisting of members which have been accepted as notable. For example, members are former Gotham Road, Michale Graves ( Misfits ). These groups are already heavily covered in Wikipedia for touring as well as major label releases. This is more then enough for Know Your Enemy (the band) to have precidense over an album in acordance with Wikipedia. see WP:MUSIC.--149.151.193.173 17:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Prove us that they have gone a national concert tour. I have seen no traces of such. See my comment above. You misunderstand the WikiProject Music Guideline. "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise extremely notable." Some members were part of Gotham Road, but it isn't an extremely notable band. Michale Graves
 * delete I've put back Know Your Enemy as it shuld be, created Know Your Enemy (disambiguation) and Know Your Enemy (band). Hope we can now move on.... Rich   Farmbrough 18:30, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.