Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kobenz (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 23:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Kobenz (musician)

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completely and utterly non-notable artist, fails WP:NMUSIC, sourced entirely to paid for press releases, black hat seo and otherwise unreliable sites. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 15:47, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete a large percentage of the references are blatantly non-useable, such as IMDb and Spotify, and any other source is a short and non-independent press release. Subject fails all the criteria he should pass, such as WP:MUSICBIO and WP:SIGCOV. It is also promotional and very suspicious of self-publishing as the author has only edited this article. On top of it, the authors username is "non notable places and people", which is what pushed me to suggest speedy deletion. Coreykai (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete per nom and Coreykai. Btw, the author's name is "Notable places and people" which is highly ironic in this case. He also stated that "the general topics are verified on multiple sources and the artist is verified as an artist on Google, Spotify, and a few other sites that were listed. I'm looking to start doing more content writing on alternative/dark artists of all kind" I am afraid they will all be deleted if they contain "verified" "sources" as those sites... GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 16:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The article has been frothed up to make it look substantial, but the claims of notability are thin and the reliable and verifiable sources needed to support notability are even thinner. A search in Google about the artist turned up little more than this source, which is already in the article, and hardly suffices to meet the notability standard. Alansohn (talk) 16:36, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


 * ’’’Don’t Delete’’‘ Please tell me which sources listed are from non reputable outlets or are promotional. I’ve seen that the artist has a press release, but I specifically have only included articles from reputable outlets with authors. Every article added was free of paid promotion. The artist meets notability guidelines for musicians in several ways. He has or is releasing songs with notable ensembles (Kim Bullard, Katy Rose, and Lil Tracy). The artist has been credited in three films for either composition or production. The artist shares a name with a city, and is currently more relevant according to Google. Also, how am I the only contributor to this article? There have been multiple contributions by many different people. User: slykos was the first to move it to draft. I am not this person, nor do I have any personal affiliation with this entity. Notablepeopleandplaces (talk) 16:37, 18 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notablepeopleandplaces (talk • contribs)
 * Just because he worked with notable people does not make him notable, if he is not covered by reliable sources. There need to be reliable sources about a living person (and about everything, by the way). I don't know about the films, so I can't comment on that. Being named after a city is not notability make either (come on, WP would be a parody of itself if that would make someone notable). The city is notable, but this guy isn't notable just because he's named after a city. Please read WP:RS, WP:ALBUMAVOID and WP:NOTINHERITED before you plan to continue writing those artists you mentioned on your talk page. Thank you. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. I just removed the personal life section, as the entire thing was just a copy of the biography on the subject's website. The next step would be to remove all the content sourced to IMDb, which as a user-generated site is not considered reliable. And then the interviews can go, as those are essentially self-published and not subject to the editorial overview that we expect from reliable sources. After that, there's really nothing left – certainly nothing that shows that this artist meets any of the criteria listed at WP:MUSICBIO. – bradv  🍁  17:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bradv. There's nothing that is reliable, secondary, independent and gives the subject significant coverage - not notable. Girth Summit  (blether)  17:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete — Nothing there (per sources) to show subjects meets GNG or any criterion from MUSICBIO. Celestina007 (talk) 18:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable rapper.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per all of the above and per WP:SNOW Spiderone  21:34, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


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