Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kokomo BobKats


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The result was merge to The Basketball League. T. Canens (talk) 11:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Kokomo BobKats

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Declined PROD had rationale Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP, per WP:CORPDEPTH. Professional sports is a business. Teams and leagues must meet corporate notability standards. which I agree with. Only independent coverage is local - per WP:AUD is insufficient. The Basketball League is a possible redirect target. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 18:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 18:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 18:52, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Decent amount of coverage, like   . It is a fairly important league, so not just a YMCA league but on par with some of the lesser European leagues. A redirect would be better than delete, but I don't think we need either. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 23:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Your first and third sources cited are the same source ("Kokomo Bobkats: Professional minor league basketball team officially announced" written by Jacqueline Rans for the Kokomo Persepective). Your second and fourth are also the same article ("The Kokomo BobKats: City lands professional basketball team" written by Carson Gerber for the Kokomo Tribune). If those are the only two significant sources, then it probably falls short of GNG right now via the lack of WP:SUSTAINED WP:NOTNEWS WP:AUD coverage of simply being announced as a team in the first week of September 2020 only covered by the local papers. It may not be a YMCA league (although they did have a team play at a Boys & Girls Club in New York in 2019), but many teams play in high school gyms (or even at middle schools in the past). It is a step above the ABA, but a good step below most of the other national leagues Seems incubation or redirect would be better until it gets sustained coverage when and if the team ever plays (this type of league does have a reputation of announcing teams that never play, eg San Diego Armada in 2019). In other words, I do not believe teams in this league should be presumed to get coverage to meet GNG in the future in all cases. Some teams do eventually meet it, some don't. Yosemiter (talk) 02:58, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:51, 11 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to The Basketball League. This article fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. The coverage I found were the same source Eddy cites above, and the two local news releases announcing the team are not enough to establish notability. I think this might be a case of WP:TOOSOON and merging the sources to The Basketball League will allow editors to store sources and write about the BobKats until (and if) its notability is established. Z1720 (talk) 15:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Basketball League. Not enough non-WP:AUD coverage to establish notability. Likely case of WP:TOOSOON until the league grows and the team generates more non-local coverage. Add the existing info to the "history" section of the target article.  18:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Basketball League.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


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