Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kona Williams


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Wiki2008time (talk) 02:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Kona Williams

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Does not meet WP:N and minimal WP:RS. Completely non-notable physician. She is not the first First Nations doctor in Canada. She's just the first First Nations person who went into forensic pathology, which is not anything notable. Citations are minimal, there is nothing particularly unique about her career path - standard graduate of medicine who completed a standard residency. This page should also be marked as a medical stub but for some reason was around since 2017 and not stubbed. Wiki2008time (talk) 17:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Withdrawn by nominator This was not made in bad faith, I genuinely don't know all the rules in this hostile place but I do feel that such short articles are inadequate for Wikipedia. I still believe they should not exist, but I see the majority disagrees because apparently every accomplishment we have as First Nations people needs to be announced like it's such a surprise some of us are able to become doctors that it needs to go in an encyclopedia, so this AfD will be deemed a "kept" regardless. --Wiki2008time (talk) 02:51, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2020 June 17.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 17:45, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a slam dunk keep. Her accomplishments are clearly deemed notable by very substantial coverage in major reputable national sources, not just local hometown coverage.  The TorStar story by itself, is more than enough, but more is visible in Google.  --Rob (talk) 22:16, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I found this through the science deletion sorting list, but as a working pathologist the appropriate notability standard for her is WP:GNG, not WP:PROF, so the nomination remark about citations is irrelevant. Searching news for her name finds plenty of coverage, some of the general-interest who-is-this-person type (e.g. on top of the coverage we already have) but also for her work on investigating deaths of indigenous people   and as an examiner in the Murder of Tess Richey (despite the fact that somehow our Richey article doesn't actually mention her; for coverage see e.g. ). So there's also no issue with WP:BIO1E, nor with the nominator's suggestion that being the first indigenous pathologist is somehow unworthy of notability (despite worthiness not being relevant for GNG), because she has plenty of other accomplishments to be notable for. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 09:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Meets GNG by court/criminal coverage involving her work and profiles of her trailblazing career in forensic medicine (sources pointed out by David Eppstein).--Eostrix (talk) 10:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and close the AfD. This is one of two articles that the nominator marked for deletion before abruptly retiring due frustration at their own articles being nominated for deletion so I believe this is likely a bad faith nom. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets the general standards for wiki-notability thanks to the sources provided above. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 00:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


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