Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Konrad Juengling (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and salt. Randykitty (talk) 17:33, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Konrad Juengling
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Article on a NN activist, heavy on self-promotion and in fact a COI, created by an editor who admits to it being autobiographical. This has been recently discussed on the COIN noticeboard and on ANI  with numerous editors raising issues, but no resolution. For the article itself -- to repeat myself from the ANI -- this is nothing more than an activist doing activist things, a BLP1E at best, with somewhat threadbare sources that fail to provide the "significant coverage" to the subject that the GNG requires. Beyond that, a prior version was created by a sock of User:Kbabej at a time when he was indeffed, and deleted as a G5 violation. Beyond that, one of his indeffed socks created an article on his uncle, which has been prodded. Now while User:Kbabej has been a productive editor, he is not thereby immunized against COI. It was a bad look for him to have created an article on himself in 2015, it remained a bad look for him to have created an article on himself in 2017. He has already agreed to a voluntary tban regarding his family, but the messes need to be cleaned up. At this point, the article should be deleted and salted.   Ravenswing     11:17, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions.   Ravenswing      11:17, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Also pinging editors from the prior discussions.   Ravenswing     12:19, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete: selfpromotional puff piece that fails not only WP:BIO but also WP:GNG. Please note that there was never a discussion here at AfD after the first AfD-nomination since it was speedily deleted per CSD G5 (created by blocked or banned user) before any discussion had taken place. - Tom  &check;  &#124; Thomas.W talk 11:26, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete clearly self promotional puff. I completely agree with Tom regarding BIO and GNG beyond the obvious COI issues.  Springee (talk) 13:38, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I can't find any reviews of his book, so AUTHOR is a bust. There's this rather brief profile, and this about how he met his spouse . Coverage in Grenada over environmental causes he's championed  and this is sort-of coverage, but it talks about him: . Oaktree b (talk) 16:46, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * But it needs a re-write, this is very promo. Oaktree b (talk) 16:47, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Self promotional puff. --Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 17:24, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Still doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or any of the secondary notability standards. Subject looks likely to be notable at some point, but not yet. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 21:06, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Textbook example of inflation. Delete. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Self promotion. Such coverage as their is in secondary sources fails to demonstrate that the subject is anything more than an activist with an eye to publicity. AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah. He sprinkled his name into several list articles, from the Eagle Scouts to "LGBT Mormons."   Ravenswing      10:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:35, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


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