Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koreatown, Chicago


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The result was delete per nom and redirect. This nomination gets a star in my book as an example of a nomination with enough reliable sources to qualify as an article. —Doug Bell talk 20:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Koreatown, Chicago

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Koreatown is not a recognized or generally accepted neighborhood in Chicago. A stretch of Lawrence Avenue is known for its concentration of businesses that cater to Korean-Americans. As such, the city gave it the honorary street name of Seoul Drive. But the article also mentions the Korean Festival on Bryn Mawr Avenue, which is several blocks north of Lawrence. Some can consider this to be a "Koreatown". There is no definitive or recognized Koreatown in Chicago like there is in Manhattan and Los Angeles. Also, the content is not correct. Chicago may not have one of the world's largest Korean population outside Korea, if you include Zainichi Koreans in Japan. Besides, the article is supposed to be about a Koreatown, which does not refer to all Koreans scattered about in the large city of Chicago. Also the sentence about Naperville is not true. While (according to the 2000 census) Naperville has 1,141 Korean American residents (scattered about, not concentrated in one or two areas), that's just 0.9% of the population. One can argue with more authority that the northern suburbs has a bigger and more noticeable population, concentration, etc. Glenview, which is smaller, has 1,866 / 4.5% of the population, still not significant enough but more so than the example of Naperville. Besides, inclusion of these trivial nonsignificant tidbits further points to the fact that there really is no Koreatown in Chicago yet. The article should redirect to Albany Park, Chicago, which better explains the Korean community in Chicago, because that is the most commonly used and accepted name for the neighborhood a few may call "Koreatown". Though Lawrence Avenue (or Bryn Mawr Avenue to the north) may be a "Koreatown", it's not called Koreatown. The listing under Koreatown is sufficient. Someone once listed Arlington Heights, Illinois on a list in the Japantown article. The only "Japantown" there is a Japanese shopping center (Mitsuwa Marketplace (Chicago Store)). This is a similar example of mislabelling. Wizmo 00:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom...catch your breath there Wizmo--M8v2 02:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per well researched nom.-- Dakota 03:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - good work, Wizmo, all AfDs should be made this easy ;) riana_dzasta 04:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge Redirect to Albany Park, Chicago. There's certainly Koreans living up there, and a Korean American community center, but it's not like Chinatown in its concentration of Korean American population. I always thought of the neighborhood as a good place to get shishkebobs, myself. Tubezone 05:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge Redirect to Albany Park. It's not one of the officially designated community areas, but a quick search through the Chicago Tribune archive shows that the term is in use. (I got 16 mostly relevant hits with UMI Proquest, including a 1998 article with the headline "KOREATOWN CRAWL: A NEW GENERATION OF ASIAN-AMERICANS CARVES OUT A NIGHT-LIFE CIRCUIT OF ITS OWN") Zagalejo 06:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The list says Albany Park is community area #14. I think gentrification and recent immigration has diluted the concentration of Koreans in the area a bit, IIRC, a number of the popular Korean clubs and restaurants are in other areas, and the Korean community center offers ESL courses for Spanish as well as Asian language speakers. Tubezone 06:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * What I meant (if I'm reading you correctly) is that Koreatown is not one of the official communty areas. No matter how many Korean people live there now, however, they're still a part of the area's history and merit some attention at the Albany Park page (or at least a redirect there). Zagalejo 07:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, actually, there's not much more in this article than what's already in the Albany Park article, so we might as well just redirect it Zagalejo 07:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * D'oh! Sorry, I misread the comment, thought you meant Albany Park.. Tubezone 15:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Redirect/(merge) per nom and others. DrKiernan 15:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect/merge per above. Either way is fine. &mdash; Seadog 19:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Cbrown1023 22:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.