Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korom


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete for lack of reliably sourced verification. — Cactus Writer (talk) 18:49, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Korom

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Suspected hoax - the location provided is a mere suburb of Payyanur, and NOT a village in its own right. The article is also poorly sourced. GammaRadiator (talk) 15:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. No reason, no evidence suggesting this is a hoax.  I notice this AFD because I am browsing AFDs about places, and note similarity to Articles for deletion/Tehran House of Volleyball where the same deletion nominator suggested a hoax with no evidence.  Existence in that case is established by photographs.  What is going on?  Just because an editor is not familiar with a topic area, they assume it is a hoax, and then they open an AFD and call it a hoax?  If so, that is not right, that is like calling "fire" in a crowded theatre. -- do  ncr  am  00:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:43, 7 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete A search for "Mavila family korom" returns only sites that mirror this article, so this is certainly a hoax. Not to mention this is unsourced and poorly written Please do not engage in Personal attacks against the nominator or any other editor. Per the guideline, comments of your nature are considered a personal attack. Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be "you're a train spotter so what would you know about fashion?". Best regards -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:48, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I usually work on articles about obscure historic sites, and it is very common for a search on a relatively obscure Wikipedia article topic to bring up only mirrors; that does not prove a hoax at all.  It just shows your search is too narrow or that sources are off-line or in other languages.
 * It is not a personal attack to note a problem in another editor's editing. I did not know or identify any characteristic of the editor like they are a train spotter;  I just pointed out the very relevant action of falsely calling something a hoax when it is absolutely not a hoax.  Please feel free to bring this up for discussion at wp:ANI if you would like to get the opinions of other editors. -- do  ncr  am  02:20, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I have no intention of taking this matter a step further by bringing it to ANI, we have no solid evidence here that this is either a hoax or it isn't, unless you can, for example, provide sources against my claims, I will continue to stand by my comments in this discussion, regards. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 09:47, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 01:09, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I edited at the article to remove the tagging as a possible hoax, and I removed (by commenting out) the unsourced statements that I think may have been perceived to be controversial, about a shooting in April 1948 and otherwise. There is a "Korom Road" in Payyanur near to the coordinates given in the article, which presumably was named for being a road to "Korom" in the way roads are often named.  The Payyanur article has been asserting, without any objection I am aware of, that Korom is one of three administrative villages in Payyanur.  Substantiating a claim of a high school in the article, there is indeed a Korom Government High School, as listed here in a "modern education" website listing schools. -- do  ncr  am  22:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


 * There is a copy of this article at Korom, in deletedwiki.com.


 * Delete unless reliably verifiable &mdash; The core issue is the policy of verifiability. The main policy-backed argument is that there's no evidence that the village exists. Other things nearby having the name "Korom" doesn't mean that a village officially exists or otherwise meets WP:GEOLAND. Although not an actual guideline, this concept is covered in common deletion outcomes for places.  As far as whether it's truly a "hoax," I don't know&mdash;that's literally the problem here. The policy-based presumption is that it shouldn't have an article unless we can prove it exists. It's not a valid reason to "keep" something because there's not evidence that it's fake; it's the other way around:  there has to be direct evidence it's not fake to be kept.  No prejudice against speedy undeletion the moment that's demonstrated. -- slakr  \ talk / 08:34, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete- Despite several weeks of argument, there has still been no reliable evidence to verify the existence of this supposed village. Reyk  YO!  11:14, 24 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.