Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kostas Novakis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. causa sui (talk) 00:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Kostas Novakis

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Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICIAN, and appears to violate WP:BLP. Nipson anomhmata  (Talk) 23:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC) Supplementary Note: He is neither a notable dentist or musician. Nipson anomhmata  (Talk) 00:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nomination seems to have arisen due to ethno-political reasons. The nominator attempted to change the ethnicity of Kostas Novakis here, due to the following reason "Slavic-speaking is not Macedonian by default, claiming that a Macedonian ethnicity exists which is Slavic is preposterous". Apparently the idea of a Macedonian ethnicity with Slavic roots is "preposterous". (To quote the first line of Macedonians (ethnic group): "The Macedonians...are a South Slavic people".)
 * I believe that the nominator has nominated the article for deletion out of bad faith, namely, as a direct response to not being able to push this fringe view.
 * This perplexing edit summary was followed by the statements, "The history of Macedonia has nothing to do with the Slavs...Claiming that the Slavs have a new ethnicity which can be called "Macedonian" as a result is preposterous. It is an invention. It is not real. It is pseudo." . This was followed by "The word "ethnicity" does not apply. It is not relevant. It is an abuse of the word. You are inventing an ethnicity".
 * If we are to accept what appears to be the underlying reason for this nomination I don't see why Macedonians (ethnic group) shouldn't be nominated also. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. Disruptive nomination made in bad faith, per above statements. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The underlying reason for the nomination is that it "Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICIAN, and appears to violate WP:BLP". Nothing more and nothing less. All three are justified and valid reasons. Can you provide any references that will enable the article to meet WP:GNG, WP:MUSICIAN or WP:BLP or that will justify a keep recommendation?  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 15:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - mentioned in a newpaper article, his cd is mentioned at various music sites. Andreas  (T) 19:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is a mention in one newspaper article which is not enough for WP:GNG, WP:MUSICIAN or WP:BLP. Unfortunately, mentions at various music sites do not qualify as WP:RS.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 12:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. The notability is marginal, but the coverage of him in Greek mainstream media is uncommon enough in its cultural/political context that we can legitimately place more weight on the single Eleftherotypia article than we would otherwise do if it was just a routine mention of an amateur musician somewhere, so for me this only just tips the balance in favour of keep. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep There are articles in several Wikipedias about his activity. Including on the Greek project. Jingby (talk) 16:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
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