Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kozhaniy Olen'


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:09, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Kozhaniy Olen'

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Tagged for notability since 2012. I did a Google search for news, and what happened was a first one for me: there was nothing there. Nada. Niet. It obviously fails WP:GNG, and I'm surprised it lasted 11 years. Liliana UwU (talk / contributions) 07:33, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 07:33, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I did end up finding links under the supposed Russian spelling (Кожаный Олень), but I don't speak Russian, so I cannot assess the little sources I found. Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 07:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Using Google translate to evaluate sources should be nothing to be ashamed of, when the alternative is to erase other contributors' work on a potentially notable subject! small jars 14:31, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. Ukrainian wiki article has 3 references and looks a bit better than ours. Did anyone try a BEFORE in Ukrainian for Ukrainian sources? I concur that notability is not apparent from our English article :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:19, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 14:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 04:04, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: did anyone even bother searching in Russian or Ukrainian before deciding that this article should be deleted? Notability does not depend on language. Here's what I found after a five-minute Google search:
 * 2005 review of the band on an old Ukrainian alternative music website. Page also includes reviews of several other bands which were prominent in the alternative scene around that time.
 * 2013 review of the band's album Snegiri i superklei from the same website
 * 2007 interview with the band's frontman from a different alternative music website
 * 2016 interview by a Russian music journalist
 * 2015 review of the band's show in Kyiv, by a Ukrainian music journalist
 * It's very difficult to find Ukrainian music charts from this time online, but the band's single ORZ seems to have been significant in the Ukrainian alternative scene at the time, and a number of sources mention this.
 * That's just what I found after five minutes of Googling. I wouldn't say that it's beyond all doubt, but it seems to me that the volume of significant coverage produced without the band's participation is enough to justify notability. Akakievich (talk) 12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Let’s try relisiting 1 last time. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Reliable, in-depth, independent. I'm not seeing or finding three articles that pass all three. This is a common problem in alternative music, but that doesn't change that it's missing here. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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