Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Král železný, král zlatý (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. As the article has been re-named and entirely re-written, to the point that the original rationale no longer applies, I'm speedily closing this as having no deletion rationale. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 23:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Král železný, král zlatý
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The Czech Wikipedia entry also has no references and Highbeam and JSTOR are bringing up nothing on the subject. Google search first page only brings up articles with just an index of the book. An example is https://www.kosmas.cz/knihy/162363/kral-zelezny-kral-zlaty/. Therefore, this article may not be notable.

In addition to that, the contents written on the article are just not encyclopedic and as of this nomination the only content of the article is "Král železný, král zlatý is a Czech novel, written by Ludmila Vaňková. It was first published in 1977." (nomination version) Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 23:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 23:40, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 23:40, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Move to Ludmila Vaňková (the author), and rewrite so that it is about her, as she certainly satisfies GNG, as I pointed out at the last AfD. James500 (talk) 23:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. The article is now located Ludmila Vaňková and has been completely rewritten so that it is about the author. KEEP the article now located at Ludmila Vaňková (who satisfies GNG and AUTHOR) and the redirect created by the page move. I hope the nominator will now withdraw his nomination as it appears to be a dead letter. I cannot understand why the nominator did not move and rewrite the article himself. James500 (talk) 04:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Because I have no familiarity with the subject. So I rather not write an article about someone I don't know about. Also I have no experience with AFD where the article is moved so I'll defer it to the judgement of the admin or others as they see fit. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 07:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. Thanks to James500 for creating the new article. I have found some evidence that suggests the book is probably notable. The book and the others in the tetralogy were reprinted in 2002, 25 years after the original publication. The absence of online reviews can be attributed to the fact that the book was published in 1977. It is likely, given the reputation of the author, that multiple reviews were published in 1977. This is a case where the book may inherit notability from the author. At the same time, I cannot find the evidence that I think must exist. A partial translation from the Czech article can be seen at Draft:Král železný, král zlatý. Anyone who thinks the book is notable is welcome to improve and submit the draft, but in its current state, it isn't ready. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 12:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * @User:Eastmain: A number of the sources cited in the article appear to be reviews of Vaňková's books. I don't know if you are aware of this, but the reason searching for "Král železný, král zlatý" does not produce results in GBooks is because that is not how Google's search engine works. It does not like speech marks, it likes you to be very specific, and it likes you to use many strings of keywords and fragments. If you search for "Král železný, král zlatý"+1977 or "král zlatý"+1977+vankova or "lev a ruze"+kral, and things like that, you should get much better results. James500 (talk) 18:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


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