Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kris Allen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy keep. Several of the nominated articles have literally just finished their AfDs. No predjudice to separate renomination of the others, but I suggest a pause for reflection before taking further action Fritzpoll (talk) 12:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Kris Allen

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I am also nominating the following related pages:



All lack notability outside of American Idol. Danny Gokey is under nomination, and Alexis Grace has already been deleted per this reason. These articles are the same as the ones listed here, and as such should get the same fate. Ejfetters (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I suggest that you withdraw this nomination and nominate them sepperately. Some of them, like Jackie Tohn, would probably pass wikipedia's notability requirements. Others probably would not.Inmysolitude (talk) 08:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep: Michael Sarver (Articles for deletion/Michael Sarver (2nd nomination)), Jasmine Murray (Articles for deletion/Jasmine Murray) and Lil Rounds (Articles for deletion/Lil Rounds) all had AfD's that were closed as Keep just today. Jorge Nunez (Articles for deletion/Jorge Nuñez (singer)) had an AfD that was closed as No consensus just today.  Scott MacIntyre (Articles for deletion/Scott MacIntyre) has an AfD that was closed as Keep yesterday, less than twelve hours ago. Aspects (talk) 08:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Anoop Desai, Matt Giraud, Allison Iraheta, Megan Joy and Adam Lambert. Articles pass criteria #1 and #9 of WP:MUSICBIO, thereby passing WP:BIO. Aspects (talk) 08:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Von Smith and Jackie Tohn. These two had articles and notability before they were involved in American Idol, so the added notability of being on American Idol makes an even stronger case for their articles to stay. Aspects (talk) 08:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have struck the Jasmine Murray article from this AFD. A seperate AFD for that article was closed today as keep. - &#10032; ALLST☆R &#10032; echo 08:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: Von Smith and Jackie Tohn. per Aspects. Smith has a long-standing and notable following from his internet YouTube postings, appearances on other television programs besides American Idol, such as on The View and a recording contract. Tohn's notability has been established with television and film roles. I agree with Inmysolitude, that a blanket grouping for deletion like this is probably inappropriate given the variation in notability and prior recent nominations of some articles that passed deletion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep for Michael Sarver, Lil Rounds, and Scott MacIntyre, which all had AFDs closed as keep less than a day ago. Weak Keep for all other finalists because as I stated in the other AFDs, they all pass criterion #9 of WP:Music, by placing in the top 13 of what is arguably the biggest music competition out there. Keep for the other two, who had established notability prior to American Idol. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 11:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep The AFD discussions for several of these articles were recently closed and renomination now would ignore that consensus. If someone has no notability outside American Idol the proper procedure would be to try to get it merged and redirected to the relevant season. There's no particular policy-based reason to try for another deletion. - Mgm|(talk) 12:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.