Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krtin Nithiyanandam (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Unless I'm missing something, there's no "delete" opinions from unblocked users. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Krtin Nithiyanandam

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He is not notable. It might have been thought he was at the time, but nothing has come of this. The most recent reference on his page is almost 5 years old (from Dec 2017), and his LinkedIn profile shows nothing of note since 2018, and even this was a Junior Prize. There was a lot of hype at the time, but he has achieved very little. Perhaps his article can be reinstated in the future when he achieves something noteworthy. WondrousMachine (talk) 16:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Strong Speedy Keep - As noted in the first AfD, there are multiple, independent sources that established notability for this subject. Also, Notability is not temporary. This subject meets WP:GNG easily. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Let us examine the relevance of each of these references:
 * 1. 'The Google Science Fair is an international competition for students from 13 to 18. It's an inspiring way to support the world's young scientists.' It is a school science fair, plain and simple, from 2015.
 * 2. The Rising Stars of 2017 - indeed, the pinnacle of his career.
 * 3. Taken from his school website. Need I say any more?
 * 4. Acknowledging he has won a Junior prize.
 * 5. One of 30 influential teens from 2017. Do they all have articles? No, because they are not noteworthy.
 * 6. 'May have cured breast cancer'. Didn't, it would seem.
 * 7. More on the Google Science Fair Prize, from which nothing came.
 * 8. His own TED talk.
 * 9. Ditto.
 * 10. Link doesn't work.
 * 11. See 6


 * Strong Speedy Delete -:While notability is not temporary, the time has come for a reassessment of his relevance to society. The fact that those things he did really did come to nothing, is without a doubt sufficient grounds for deleting the article. It is incumbent upon you to explain to me why, in 2022, he is still relevant. WondrousMachine (talk) 17:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note to closer- this Delete !Vote is coming from the nominator. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - First of all, you shouldn't be voting, your nomination indicates your vote to delete. And, the burden is actually on you to adequately convince that this article shouldn't exist, especially since it's already been through AfD. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And I have done exactly this: his prizes are all junior, he has achieved nothing since 2018, and the fact that if everyone of the comparable notoreity got a Wikipedia article it would basically be LinkedIn. All of the things that he won prizes for came to nothing. He didn't cure Alzheimer's, he didn't cure cancer and he hasn't saved the planet. WondrousMachine (talk) 17:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're saying, you just seem very passionate about this article being deleted. Let the process play out and see what other users say about it. If others come in with alot of Delete votes, I'll strike mine, but for now I'm sticking to my !vote. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete - To be honest this guy does seem pretty irrelevant. And as was said in the last nomination, it's just a resume boost. Tanner68573 (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note- The above !vote is the editors first edit. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. Two distinct events/news stories that received global coverage means WP:BLP1E doesn't apply. Doesn't matter if there's been no on-going coverage due to [[WP:NOTTEMP. No reason to delete this. (On a technical level, I believe AFD is malformed and so maybe should be procedurally closed since it's re-using the existing AFD nomination from 2019 instead of recreating a new one but I lack the knowledge to be sure/attempt to fix it). Skynxnex (talk) 19:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It does matter that there's been no ongoing coverage. This has been discussed: while notability is not temporary, his achievements were clearly fleeting and, even at the time, unremarkable. All individuals with comparable notoriety receiving a Wikipedia page would turn this into LinkedIn. It's not a free-for-all for 16-year-old has-beens. I ask you this: after a dry spell of just how long will you be forced to concede that he is irrelevant? WondrousMachine (talk) 19:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Why do you care so much about this particular case? (I am trying to WP:AGF but all of your edits are to try to delete this page--save a single edit to change an unrelated talk page comment from 2010 (which I've reverted).) If you really want this deleted, you'll have to convince enough editors that he really fails to meet WP:GNG and/or there's another policy based reason. The fact that enough WP:RSes covered his activities significantly (twice!) makes him notable, we don't need to evaluate if the sources were correct or not, AFAIK. The fact that you claim he's now a "has-been" doesn't matter, because lack of on-going coverage now doesn't change if he was ever notable. 'May have cured breast cancer'. Didn't, it would seem. We have many pages about people who have their main claim to notability to be that they tried, and failed, at curing breast cancer; that isn't a reason to delete their pages. Saying negative things about the subject isn't a reason to delete, explaining why it fails notability or otherwise meets a criteria for deletion is. Skynxnex (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note - I should also add that this is his most compelling achievement: 'In 2017, Nithiyanandam was named as a Rising Star in Science by The Observer and as one of TIME's 30 Most Influential Teens of 2017.[2][5] Krtin currently attends Stanford University.' This speaks for itself, he is a current student who achieved mild relevance in 2017. There is nothing remarkable about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WondrousMachine (talk • contribs) 19:37, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note to closer- Per this SPI, the nominator and the only other Delete !vote are connected. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 13:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I have moved this to its own page. I've fixed the main links to it, but DELSORT links and such still point to the incorrect AfD; I added a hatnote. I was going to speedy-keep this while I was at it, but realized it didn't quite meet WP:SK4 since the nom wasn't evading a block at the time of creation. So... meh. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 03:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


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