Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumeyaay (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 21:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Kumeyaay (disambiguation)

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This is a WP:TWODAB situation with a primary topic. The only other article ambiguous with "Kumeyayy" is Kumeyaay language and that can be linked from a hatnote. The dab currently has a number of other entries for WP:PTMs (like Kumeyaay Highway), and a long list of subtribes of the Kumeyaay, neither of which actually belong on a dab page. Conceivably, the list of subtribes could be salvaged by moving the page to something like List of Kumeyaay tribes, but that would duplicate the much better list already present in Kumeyaay. – Uanfala (talk) 02:38, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. In addition to the language, the college, highway and maybe the lake are all legit entries. The rest of the entries, however, can go. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:23, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is an important disambigulation page that is useful and necessary for readers of the encyclopedia and researchers; it helps in finding similar titles and it aids in searches. The d-page helps resolve potential conflicts due to ambiguity that could arise when searching for one of the many tribes of the Kumeyaay. All of the "people" listed under the heading "Kumeyaay people" within this page are federally recognized tribes of the Kumayaay Nation (even if the tribes (band) name does not start with the word, Kumeyaay). (They are not "subtribes".) The language, college, highway and lake should also remain. If it's not broke why fix it? Netherzone (talk) 15:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * A disambiguation page is there only to provide navigation to articles who topics may be referred to by the same name, it's not an article and its job is not to provide content. – Uanfala (talk) 15:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello Uanfala, I understand the definition of a disambigulation page, which is why I did not call it an article in my contribution above. You kindly misunderstand me if you think I am saying that it should provide content. However, it stands to reasonable common sense that some users of the encyclopedia would deploy the search term "Kumeyaay", when looking for a distinct band of the Kumeyaay. Landing upon this d-page would help them navigate. Not everyone in the world is knowledgeable in the idiosyncracies of tribal names. Netherzone (talk) 15:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Give that a reader is looking for a specific band of the Kumeyaay and they don't know that band's name, then if they decide to use the search term "Kumeyaay", they will arrive at the page Kumeyaay. Which is exactly what they need: they won't have any reason to click through to the dab page because the information they need is already there in the article. And that's where it ought to be: a list of tribes of the Kumayaay Nation is a subtopic of the Kumayaay Nation. – Uanfala (talk) 16:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The various bands are already listed in Kumeyaay. Anybody searching for them would normally go there first. I've deleted them from this page, as that's not what a dab page is for. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'd keep the bands, but regardless, the language, college, highway and lake are all valid entries.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No subgroups in Sioux (disambiguation), Apache (disambiguation), etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There are on Cherokee (disambiguation), Seminole (disambiguation), etc.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.