Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kung Fu Jimmy Chow (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 03:08, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Kung Fu Jimmy Chow
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No non-trivial secondary sources; one is an interview with the creators on Ain't It Cool News, one (AppScout) doesn't mention the work at all, and the rest is primary. No notability asserted. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral. Agree with reasons above. This is an advertisement for a TV show. Independent secondary sources needed to show notability.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 18:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There are multiple independent secondary soures. The only question is whether they are reliable and or provide significant enough coverage. GDallimore (Talk) 18:50, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I hunted for more references and added a few. Generally this is a tv show appealing mainly to younger audiences, so I have a feeling that we should relax the standards for references somewhat. There are online reviews by users posted about the show, mostly positive -- again, if we draw a tight line here, I think we might be missing something since kids like it and want more information about. So changing my vote to "Weak delete" from "Delete" in a spirit of good faith.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:31, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Additional comment: this is a kids' TV show; we're not going to get reviews of it in mainstream press; and I'm not going to weigh in on this debate but I prefer to create not erase. Changed overall view to neutral.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 18:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral Comment/Correction of error in nomination The AppScout article DOES mention the show: "The Heavy Animation channel will launch with the new sci-fi anime "Kung Fu Jimmy Chow" ". Together with the interview on AICN, that's two secondary sources. Only the AICN interview gives it significant coverage, but the fact it launched a new channel as mentioned by AppScout is pretty significant, I think. But given that the show generated no additional buzz after that or received any commentary that I can see, I'm pretty neutral about whether to delete it or not. GDallimore (Talk) 18:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and MacTribe may now be a dead link but it did also support the assertion of notability that the show was used to launch a Joost channel. If this article survives, I'll see if I can track down an archived copy. GDallimore (Talk) 11:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:47, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Just about all the reliable source material says the same thing: "Heavy's programming staples include Superficial Friends, Kung Fu Jimmy Chow, The Massive Mating Game, Heavy News, Behind the Music that Sucks, Heavy's Angels, Contagious, Blisster and Tourettes Cowboy." That is not enought material from which to develop a Wikipedia article on the topic. Rewarding the topic with a Wikipedia article becase it was mentioned in AppScout article isn't the Wiki way. The Ain't it Cool News website text would go to the Wikipedia notability of the co-creators of the show, not the show itself, assuming other criteria were met (and, in any event, does not provide enough material about the topic from which to write a Wikipedia article). We would be better off without this non-Wikipedia notable, copyvio attractive nuisance problem. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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