Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurds in Afghanistan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Ethnic groups in Afghanistan. Consensus is that there's not enough substance for a separate article. All editors are free to merge content from the history as appropriate.  Sandstein  13:48, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Kurds in Afghanistan

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In addition to failed WP:RS and WP:VER as mentioned above, I believe this article also fails WP:N. It appears there were some Kurds in what is present-day Afghanistan centuries ago, but they failed to coalesce themselves as an actual group and thereby leaving an important historic mark on the country. Thus, I believe this subject doesn't warrant being a stand-alone article. It should be either 1) deleted 2) merged into History of Afghanistan and/or Ethnic_groups_in_Afghanistan. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC) UTC)
 * 1) "Institutkurde.org" mentions one word about Afghanistan.
 * 2) "www.prayway.com" seems to be a Christian advocacy website.
 * 3) Stephen Tanner. No page cited.
 * 4) Madih (2007); no source cited.
 * 5) "Iran Nomad Tours" -> no mention of Afghanistan.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. LouisAragon (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. LouisAragon (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. LouisAragon (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge to a suitable article. Keep only if the Encyclopaedia of Islam source provides substantial coverage. "www.prayway.com" is one RS for the purpose of establishing WP:GNG but we need a second and the EoI article cited is the only candidate I see so far. Springnuts (talk) 18:37, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The Enc. of Islam reference has now been removed by the creator of the page. I checked the entry nevertheless, and this is the only mention of anything related to Kurds: "Tīmūr’s involvement in the politics of the Arab, Kurdish and Turkmen dynasties of eastern Anatolia had brought him into conflict with the Mamlūks and Ottomans." Its safe to say that this single sentence is unrelated to any sort of supposed Kurdish history in what is present-day Afghanistan. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 07:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. "Iran Nomad Tours" wasnt suppose to be about afghanistan, it was suppose to be about Kurds nomadic lifestyle. and "Institutkurde.org" did mention one thing about afghanistan, but it was about the population of kurds in afghanistan, which i listed that source for population ONLY. and i removed "www.prayway.com" and everything i got from there. as for the book sources, none of them mentioned anything about afghan kurds but they did mention about the mongol invasions. i have wanted to make this article for a long time now, and i finally did make it, i believe its better for this article to keep it a stand-alone article. i have added more information and sources, and i added another section. - Kelhuri (talk) 17:39, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * New sources. The AISS [] looks to be a RS, but please see WP:NONENG and provide translations. As it stands I’m leaning to merge still but I’d encourage the article creator/champion to request also that this article is draftified which will allow them to write something - without hurry and pressure - which will clearly pass GNG and be of real value. If it can be done. Springnuts (talk) 06:42, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support merge/delete per the comments. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Don't delete and a Comment the statement in the nomination about the absence of Kurds in Afghanistan appears to be disproven by search about this on Google Scholar: https://www.proquest.com/openview/5ea995a90a79d646a591ad39697afa8b/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=44192 A search for "Kurds in Afghanistan" in Google Books took me to page 11 of Tapper, R. (2012). Tribe and State in Iran and Afghanistan (RLE Iran D): Taylor & Francis. which also speaks about Kurds in Afghanistan. I therefore think the nominating critique of sources might be valid, but the statement that the topic is not notable is incorrect. I don't know enough to express a solid vote, but I know enough to add that we should take an option that is not delete. CT55555 (talk) 11:12, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Rewrite & Merge, move to draft/sandbox, rewrite according to RS and merge into History of Afghanistan or Ethnic_groups_in_Afghanistan, if enough relevant information can be established. --Kansas Bear (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Kurds are notable, Afghanistan is notable, but not enough sourcing for Kurds in Afghanistan specifically means this is WP:SYNTH. Stifle (talk) 09:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.