Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kurt Thielen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A very poor discussion. All comments except the nominator's must essentially be disregarded (pure vote / attack on subject / does not address reasons for deletion / obvious canvassing or meatpuppetry). So it's best to treat this as a slightly soft deletion, i.e., undeletion via WP:REFUND is possible, but should only be requested by experienced editors who intend to edit the article to make its notability (if any) clear.  Sandstein  21:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Kurt Thielen

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Does not appear to be independently notable from his company Zebralution (WP:INHERITORG: "An organization may be notable, but individual members (or groups of members) do not 'inherit' notability due to their membership"). Nominating for deletion as my redirecting to Zebralution was reverted.

The sources provided all pertain to Zebralution except for:


 * Two German language industry news articles which relate to his winning an award at the Frankfurt Book Fair for his and Zebralution's contribution to the audiobook industry. Google coverage of this appears to be light, to say the least, and there is no assertion nor do I believe that this qualifies as "a well-known and significant award or honor"


 * A link to Rough Trade Distribution GmbH, which proves his connection with the German distributor of that name (discogs.com) but not (as originally asserted in the article) the famous record label Rough Trade (discogs.com)

- kingboyk (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:24, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:24, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

— Note to closing admin: Fact Loving Criminal (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. --kingboyk (talk) 14:27, 9 February 2020 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: has only contributed to this AfD discussion. --kingboyk (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. End him. -- Dorama285 18:23, 05 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Kurt Thielen is a senior figure in the German and European independent music scene, with merits dating back to a time long before Google (like working as CEO for the German branch of, yes, THE Rough Trade label from London). It shouldn't be to his fault that most of the 80s and 90s independant music publications and information is ephemera. Best, --Fact Loving Criminal (talk) 19:11, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Kurt Thielen is one of the key figures of the European audiobook industry. --JellySchnelli67 (talk) 14:57, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:33, 8 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Credit where credit is due. (Why are you so obsessed about this, kingboyk?) --Jürgen Laarmann (talk) 00:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.