Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kusumber Putra


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Kusumber Putra

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Fails WP:NSONG. I realise that a song originally written in 1937 and never recorded for more than 80 years is not likely to have much of an internet footprint, but there doesn't appear to be any discussion of the song in media coverage of the writer following his death in 2011, or of the 2018 recording by Jayanta Nath, outside of Mr. Nath's social media and music download sites. In fact, it's difficult to find any sources not connected to the song's writer Bhupen Hazarikar – the book cited in the sources was written by a mathematician, not a journalist, who happened to be a close friend of the songwriter ... the book is apparently only 32 pages long and was published by Cool Grove Publishing, a publishing company which was founded and is owned by Hazarikar's son. The singer Jayanta Nath was also a friend of the writer, having worked with him during his lifetime – his version of the song was produced by the Bhupen Hazarikar Foundation, also set up by Hazarikar's son. A redirect to Bhupen Hazarikar would be the normal course of action here, but this song isn't mentioned anywhere in Hazarikar's article, and as stated above, the only source seems to be published by his friends and family. I've tried searching for the song's title in other languages, but as it means "I love you", you can imagine that the search is a nightmare. I stand corrected on this last statement, it apparently means "son of Kusumber". Richard3120 (talk) 16:48, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Edit: the article creator has now added a book by another family member and a link to the Assamese Wikipedia, but neither of these are acceptable sources either. Richard3120 (talk) 14:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

(transcluded from this AfD's talk page) There are sources connected to the song's writer Bhupen Hazarika, In the Assamese Wikipedia ,which was his native language, but in the English Wikipedia it's not corrected. In the Assamese Wikipedia It is citing to a 2013 book by Surya Hazarika "Moi ati Zazabor" [ISBN:978-81-904774-6-8]. There are lyrics of the song available in many web archives. There was media coverage in Assamese printed media at the time of song release. And the song doesn't mean "I love you", As it was a tribute to Assamese polymath Sankardev, "Kusumber" is his fathers name and "Putra" means son. Putukaisawesome (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Then you need to find the coverage in printed media and cite it. The Moi eti Jajabor book is Dr. Hazarikar's autobiography, so it's not an independent source. Richard3120 (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The songs does not meet any criterion of WP:NSONG.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 18:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


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