Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kwasind


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 10:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Kwasind

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Article about an individual Ferry (boat) fails WP:GNG as well as wp:Notability (vehicles)  D Big X ray  10:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Withdrawing nomination Although this still fails WP:GNG but only because everyone else feels this boat is a Ship and lack of WP:NSHIPS and WP:NBOATS (no clear notability guidelines so far) -- D Big X ray  18:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep References in article appear to have (barely) already established wp:notability. Short article with useful, encyclopedic information. North8000 (talk) 12:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The sources given only point out its existence, not notability, (unless I am missing something)-- D Big X ray  12:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. A 100-year-old vessel still in operation seems to meet the notability threshold. -- Necrothesp (talk) 18:48, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Already sourced.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep A 100 year old vessel still in operation was one of the reasons I started this article. It is not only still in operation, but it is still being used for its original purpose, by its original owners.  How many oher vessels of its age remain in operation in North America? I can only think of the Edward M. Cotter (fireboat).  I doubt there are more than a couple of dozen.  Unless they were truly forgotten vessels, that had never been covered in any WP:RS, it would surprise me if they didn't all merit individual articles.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I had never heard of WP:Notability (vehicles), and that disturbed me, until I took a seocnd look, and saw it was an essay, not a policy or guideline. I left a comment at WP:Notability (vehicles)  I suggested the essay should be amended to explicitly discludes ships from its scope, for reasons I explained there.  It always disturbs me when I see an essay being cited as if it had the authority of policy in an xfd.  For what it is worth, this essay seems to have been almost forgotten, averaging about one view per day.  There is a big spike today, probably all due to my reviews of it.  There was a big spike one day several months ago.  I am going to guess that is the last time it was cited in an xfd.  It might be worth consideration, to prevent confusion, by demoting this essay from the wikipedia name space, down to user space, and so reflect how little support it seems to have.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - N(Vehicles) is a de facto demoted essay; the article (barely) meets WP:GNG; and the nominator's implied claim that articles on individual ships are not needed is contraindicated by broad consensus. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability requirements have been met. Brad (talk) 02:08, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Even if we accept the opinion in WP:N(V) I don’t see how it applies; Kwasind is not “treated in secondary sources as an example of a type” (ie not just given as an example of a ferry boat), she is “treated by secondary sources as (a) distinct entity” (as are pretty much all ships). Xyl 54 (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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