Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LANGERLAND.TV

LANGERLAND.TV

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Colm Tobin. Guy (Help!) 22:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
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Once-off show sourced entirely to a TV listing and the network's website. No indication of notability. Greykit (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge into Colm Tobin (or Langerland.com if an article is ever created for the website): I did a quick Google search and turned up the following -


 * Irish Independent - Admittedly just another TV guide, but this one goes into quite a bit more detail on the show than the one currently in use as a reference.
 * The Herald - Only a two sentence blurb, but this one actually reviews the show, which, brevity aside, goes a long way toward establishing notability and allowing for quality article construction.
 * Cork Independent - A profile on Colm Tobin, one of Langerland.TV's creators.


 * Tobin already has an article of his own, and while it doesn't make any mention of Langerland.TV, information about his involvement with the series could be added from the Cork Independent article. I el like there might be some good potential refs floating around out there for the website, in which case someone who wants to take the time could create an article on Langerland.com and incorporate info about the TV show there. In the mean time though, Tobin's article is probably the best place for this. --Jpcase (talk) 14:00, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Tobin does not have an article of his own. Clearly this mistake has been made before, as he very emphatically says himself on his Twitter: "I am NOT the writer Colm Tóibín." He does not match the link provided to the "novelist, short story writer, essayist, playwright, journalist, critic and poet" and top-300 intellectual. --Greykit (talk) 23:28, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, my mistake. Thanks for catching that! :) All the same, the Cork Independent article (which I just noticed I had incorrectly linked to, but have fixed), along with this article from the Irish Times that I just found, suggest that Tobin is notable enough to receive an article of his own. So I stand by my vote. And yes, it would seem that he has been mistaken for Tóibín quite a bit, as he even relates an amusing anecdote about it in the Irish Times article. --Jpcase (talk) 02:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

I have tried to extract information from the sources, squeezing out of them all that I can.
 * Some observations on the sources themselves:
 * Of the three sources that are about the show, two are definitely by the same writer, while the third could easily be as well, since I can locate no name in it and all three are published by the same company.
 * The sources provide a total of 1 sentence, 2 sentences and 4 sentences of reading respectively. Many of these sentences repeat similar things. Their quality leaves a lot to be desired (what is one to do with, for instance, "The gentleman pictured may look a bit like Bert from Sesame Street, but given the backdrop and that insanely optimistic expression I'd say he's supposed to be Mick McCarthy"? That is one of the 7 sentences).
 * None of the sources focus even as much as a quarter on this specific show. It could easily be missed if it wasn't being searched for. --Greykit (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not suggesting that we keep this article. Just that we create an article for Tobin and include some sort of mention of Langerland.TV there. --Jpcase (talk) 00:18, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and changed Colm Tobin from a redirect to Colm Tóibín into its own article. So if we're in agreement, then we can go ahead and merge LANGERLAND.TV into that article. --Jpcase (talk) 14:36, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have redirected it as there have been no further comments for more than two days and no better suggestion in nearly two weeks. I'm not sure there's anything that can be merged. --Greykit (talk) 17:20, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Colm Tobin. User:Greykit - do not remove an AfD tag from an article while the discussion is still open. --Michig (talk) 07:48, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove anything. Apart from which, I put it there in the first place(!) I withdraw the nomination, if that's any help. --Greykit (talk) 10:51, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 10:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually, it would have been fine if Greykit wanted to withdraw the nomination, per WP:WDAFD - though admittedly, in that case, a note should have been left on this page. I have to say, I'm a little bit surprised that the admin decided to relist this discussion, seeing as though it seems that all of the important points have already been evaluated and agreed upon. But I guess there's no harm in waiting another week and seeing if anyone can bring something new to the discussion. --Jpcase (talk) 16:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would have been fine. There does appear to be consensus already - just a matter of whether there's any more to be merged to the Colm Tobin article - presumably you are happy for this to be closed now as a redirect? --Michig (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While this article has a bit of information that I didn't include in the Colm Tobin article, it doesn't look like any of it can be referenced, and I'm not sure how appropriate it would be in Tobin's personal article anyway. So yes, I think the way to go would be to close the discussion as a redirect. --Jpcase (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
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