Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LC Waikiki


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The result was Speedy close: withdrawn by nominator and no one else voted for anything but 'keep'. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:39, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

LC Waikiki

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There's a lack of WP:ORGCRIT-compliant sources in the article or turning up in my BEFORE. I see lots of local coverage of branch openings/closings, which is all trivial. There's some coverage of a controversy from this July where they released and then removed a shirt in Turkey with Arabic language writing (e.g. [https://www.middleeasteye.net/video/arab-customers-call-boycott-international-clothing-brand-lc-waikiki this video piece in Middle East Eye), but the coverage I'm seeing is focused on the product, not the company, and does not give us info on the company that we could use to craft an article. As a caveat, I'm accessing Turkish-language sources via machine-translation and I don't have a good sense of what Turkish sources are considered reliable. Many have been marked or unmarked (but blatant) press releases. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fashion, Companies,  and Turkey. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep – Ignoring the state of the article itself, it's pretty much impossible for a company of this size—the largest in Turkey—to not have any non-trivial coverage. There is this journal article about the company. Not all of the content is independent, but there is some analysis and opinion present and definitely contributes to passing WP:ORG. This article analyses the impact of its marketing. Another article analyses a playable ad of the company, though I'm not really sure if this contributes to notability (the extended abstract on p. 76 is in English). There are some hits in books, which may have more independent coverage. There were some protests earlier this year against its anti-LGBT stance. Sources from the 80s and 90s presumably also exist, as searching the Cumhuriyet archives from that era gives 6 results (which I can't link to) while Milliyet gives 43. I can't prove that some, if any, of these older sources have something that contributes to notability since Cumhuriyet is paywalled and the archives of Milliyet are basically unreadable, but there might be something, and I don't think it's a huge strech to think so. ~Styyx Talk ? 12:45, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep  I added two independent sources for the article. One of the sources is Forbes. Since the CEO is a billionare Forbes includes him on its page and also gives information about the company and its history. I also found another story about the company. I am willing to add more and improve the article if it wont be deleted. Metuboy (talk) 21:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - At over 1250 individual locations world-wide, they are 5 times larger than Urban Outfitters, 2 times as large as Hot Topic, about the same as C&A, 12 times as large as Fanzz, larger than Abercrombie & Fitch, Banana Republic and Uniqlo. Most of those examples are so recognisable in the west that you don't even need to do any search to know that they are notable, and they are smaller than LC WAIKIKI. The same level of recognition applies to LC WAIKIKI in the countries that they are active.--Gazozlu (talk) 18:29, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you everyone for finding additional sources. I'm now also a keep on this and am therefore withdrawing and speedily closing. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:39, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


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