Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LL Cooke School Chicago


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The result was merge to American School of Correspondence. Merge anything of value as WP:ATD. Missvain (talk) 16:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

LL Cooke School Chicago

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I prodded it with "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. ". PROD was endorsed by User:Bearian, but removed by User:DGG (who sadly did not notify me despite my request). DGG added a reference to worldcat which proves that the subject existed as is not a hoax but nothing has been done to address the issue of notability. As noted, I couldn't - and still can't - find any source suggesting this school had any significance. I also tried looking for sources for Leslie Lyman Cooke, on the chance that this could be rescued by being rewritten into a biography, but no such luck. Unless some coverage is found, I am afraid this is a non-notable piece of history (and WP:OR, given the still unreferenced text for pretty much everything here). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:45, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The only source cited is a link to the WorldCat catalog which does not provide enough information to establish notability under WP:ORG or WP:GNG. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Delete there are no citations. FiddleheadLady (talk) 17:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 'Merge to American School of Correspondence seems an obvious way to handle this.  DGG ( talk ) 22:33, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , We are still missing any reliable references for the content cited, the ref you added is borderline WP:OR for the facts in the article. I guess we could mention Cooke in the new section as 'contributors to American School of Correspondence' or such, but WorldCat is pretty much a PRIMARY source. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I consider WC in some sense a secondary source. The books it catalogs are the primary sources; WC is a reasonably authoritative NPOV statement about the books it includes. To avoid any confusion we could do as I always do when I'm citing Worldcat, and say, "according to Worldcat..."  DGG ( talk ) 04:09, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:58, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete World Cat is a relible source that works exist. It is not by any stretch a reliable source that institutions exists. About all worldcat really tells us is that there was an L. L. Cooke, and that he wrote on electrical engineering. This is not enough verify any information relative to a course he may have started.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested, and as a reasonable compromise. Bearian (talk) 16:59, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


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