Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LSU Athletic Hall of Fame


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 10:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

LSU Athletic Hall of Fame

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I originally proposed this for deletion, but the author of the article chose to remove it without any explanation, although I kind asked him for one at his talk page. Regarding the article, I feel like it should be deleted because the article fails to show how the list is notable, as well a google search gives no results for for reliable, independent media coverage or sources. Fails WP:N. — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 04:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'm the author of the article, so naturally I'm for keeping the article. This article should not be nominated for deletion.  If anything, it should simply be marked as a stub with a note to urge readers to improve upon it.  There could be sections for the history of the Hall, the nomination process, pictures, etc.  The article has growth potential, and the spirit of wikipedia is to allow articles like this to grow. Seancp (talk) 00:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You really haven't explained why is this list notable, which is the reason for the Afd process. — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 06:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 14:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep LSU is one of the major American college sports programs, so a list of its Hall of Fame members seems OK to me. There is some media coverage about it. For example, this is interesting. And there are a bunch of other articles at Google News. Zagalejo^^^ 18:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for finding those links. An interesting conclusion to the Shaq issue....he eventually completed his degree at LSU in 2000, and was subsequently inducted into the LSU Hall of Fame. Seancp (talk) 18:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I was going to say keep because it would be too unwieldy, but since the vast majority of those athletes are redlinks, I recommend merge into LSU Tigers.  Corvus cornix  talk  23:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Regardless of whether it's LSU or a small college, any institution's Hall of Fame is nothing more than a way to honor its distinguished alumni. The adage that "Wikipedia is not a directory" WP:NOTDIR applies perfectly to this situation, and this is just a directory of people honored by the Athletics Department at Louisiana State University. Mandsford (talk) 02:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge as suggested by corvus. There is no policy that everyone included in an article need be notable enough for their own article--far from it.
 * Disagree. If there are redlinks in a list, they get deleted.  Without an article which proves the person's notability, then creating a list of people whose notability hasn't been proven is just an end run around the notability requirements.   Corvus cornix  talk  20:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "If there are redlinks in a list, they get deleted?" Maybe I'm misunderstanding that, but this is indeed "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit".  Bluelinks can get nominated for deletion, but redlinks are nothing more than words and phrases with brackets around them. Mandsford (talk) 00:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think most of these people can be proven notable with some effort. I just started an article on Rudy Macklin, for example. Zagalejo^^^ 01:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * this is indeed "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit".. Indeed.  And when I encounter redlinks which don't indicate a notability, I remove them.   Corvus cornix  talk  22:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * More support for keep: Here is a list of Halls of fame with articles on Wikipedia: Category:Halls of fame  The LSU Athletic Hall of Fame is just as distinguished and just as notable as all of the halls of fame listed.  Of particular interest is the University of Iowa Athletics Hall of Fame article, which is actually a pretty good article, and an example of what the LSU article could become.  It is the nature of Wikipedia to let articles grow.  Just because an article is a stub or is incomplete does not mean it should be deleted.  Seancp (talk) 01:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, how is the Magic: The Gathering Hall of Fame notable but the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame is not????? Seancp (talk) 01:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Somewhere, a deletionist is salivating... Mandsford (talk) 15:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Knock off the attacks and concentrate on the subject at hand.  Corvus cornix  talk  22:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should knock off telling other people to "knock off". I'm busy salivating. Mandsford (talk) 23:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * comment Looking at that category, I see no other article corresponding to this: one for States as a whole, yes; ones for sports as a whole at a national or international level, certainly; but not ones for sports at a particular university. DGG (talk) 17:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * uh, look again then edit your comment Seancp (talk) 19:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No need for DGG to edit his comment. The only university halls of fame I saw in "[Category:Sports halls of fame]" were University of Iowa Athletics Hall of Fame, "Category:Stanford Athletic Hall of Fame" and Ohio State Varsity O Hall of Fame.  There are some halls of fame that cover everyone in an entire state, like Alabama Sports Hall of Fame, but if there are other university-oriented articles, I can't find them either.  Mandsford (talk) 23:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just for the sake of accuracy, the (oddly-named) List of Morgan State University Athletic Hall of Fame is also listed there, and actually survived AFD a few months ago. Zagalejo^^^ 23:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


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