Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LTTE and Maoist Relations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was close and relist semi-protected due to the ongoing disrutpion by a sock farm (CU). -Jéské ( v^_^v +2 Pen of Editing ) 16:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

LTTE and Maoist Relations
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Strange essay, on highly controversial topic, making highly controversial statements. Given reference link is faulty, it is copypasting of newsarticles rather than direct references. Soman (talk) 15:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Soman is not allowing others to Contribute. User:Soman is disrupting important information that was requested by Politicians and others to create. All refferences with pages have been provided. User:Sonam seems to be incooperative by nominating important articles and related articles which must be made. User fails to understand Recent Activties and Joint Operations which have been taken place recently. --Indra10 (talk) 08:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Article must be known and included as part of LTTE joint terrorism it is reccomeded that the article is known because LTTE is providing training to Maoists and sponsoring them as well. Article also has refferences. It is the only article that shows the relations with other Militants its a reccomended article by Politicians --Thileepanmathivanan (talk) 00:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Soman Fails to Provide recent and upto date information. This page was created on Recent Activities that had taken place just a while ago. I am just contributing and am sure it will eventually expand.

Here, Gatherd Information from News and Other Sources

Refferences


 * http://www.lankalibrary.com/pol/nepal.htm
 * http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2005/12/4984.html
 * http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/dec/15bihar.htm
 * http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080116215946&Page=Q&Title=ORISSA&Topic=0
 * http://lankaguardian.blogspot.com/2008/01/orissa-maoists-linked-to-ltte.html
 * http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3433-34india_farm_crisis.html
 * http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/12/mil-051216-irna01.htm
 * http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4146&issueid=41
 * http://nepal.usembassy.gov/sp_03-16-2006.html
 * http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20070213_02

There are indefinite amount of resources too many and i garuntee 100% this article is going to expand.

User:Soman is just picking on articles i have created and nominating them for deletion and my articles are all information that are most upto date. I did nothing wrong i am just contributing like any other Wikipedian. --99.238.6.68 (talk) 11:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep -- Information seems to be popular on Google as well. --ThambeEeE (talk) 11:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC) *Keep Yes. enna ? watchdogb orey oru Tamil pulli. dai anna sollu unakkaga. soman vesay lossu penn ketta. This article is the truth bara pundaaeyyy --Tamilagam (talk) 11:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC) — Tamilagam (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. *Keep article may be useful in future. --Raninder (talk) 04:27, 22 February 2008 (UTC) — Raninder (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment. Three other related AfDs and disruptions of the process are discussed at ANI. --Soman (talk) 12:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination Taprobanus (talk) 17:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete As per nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless specific inline references can be provided for the specific statements and they can be put into historical context. Since the references go back to 2005 writing this as a currently valid description of things seems incorrect. DGG (talk) 20:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No WP:RS given. Watchdogb (talk) 03:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, pundai is an insult in Tamil, which was previously posted on my talk page by of the confirmed socks. Quite safe to state that this is another sock. --Soman (talk) 11:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Useful for what ? this is a theory that can be fully intergrated within the main articles such as LTTE Taprobanus (talk) 13:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep - Ok Taprobanus add it then. Put it on LTTE page --Raninder (talk) 14:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Note -- Article should also be put in Nepal Maoists article and CPI too --Raninder (talk) 14:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Requests for checkuser/Case/Thileepanmathivanan has confirmed that users Indra10, ThambeEeE, Thileepanmathivanan and 99.238.6.68 are one and the same person. --Soman (talk) 06:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment and  have now been confirmed as socks, too. --Soman (talk) 18:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Here Gatherd some more References from the RajayaSabha Goverment Politic Line from their website and Sri Lankan Website that provides Ref to all articles posted


 * http://rajyasabha.gov.in/resume/206/obituary.htm
 * http://www.spur.asn.au/latest1.htm

and here are some more regular News Updates on the Relations

http://www.profilesinterror.com/updates/2006_04_23_archive.html

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050710/world.htm#4

http://naxalnaxalitemaoist.wordpress.com/category/news/

Theres too many. Its that popular and should be notable --Jawan101 (talk) 11:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC) — Jawan101 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I'm copypasting a comment I did on the article take page, regarding given links: "On references:
 * http://nepal.usembassy.gov/sp_03-16-2006.html doesn't provide any claims at all on LTTE links to Indian or Nepalese Maoists
 * http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20070213_02 is a comment, taken from a pov website (SPUR), doesn't provide sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soman (talk • contribs) 14:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2005/12/4984.html confirms that claims are made on LTTE-CPI(Maoist) connection, by Indian politicians
 * http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/dec/15bihar.htm claims that CPI(Maoist) aknowledges links between LTTE and Indian left groups in the 1980s, which I don't dispute, but that the party refutes a report from web-based South Asia Tribune. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/12/mil-051216-irna01.htm contains more or less the same claims on connections 1986-1987.
 * In http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080116215946&Page=Q&Title=ORISSA&Topic=0 the only concrete info is "During investigation, police got vital clues that one arrested Naxalite had a direct link with LTTE in Tamil Nadu and the police suspect [my emphasis, note the wording] link of all arrested Maoists with the dreaded terror outfit.

Intelligence sources [my emphasis, who are they?] informed that the entry of Tamil refugees from Jaffna (Sri Lanka) to Malkangiri five years back could have [my emphasis, note speculatory tone] established the link between Koraput Naxalites with Tamil cadres who later established their links with LTTE."
 * http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3433-34india_farm_crisis.html is, well, LaRouchpub, a site not generally recognized as reputable source.
 * http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4146&issueid=41 says "Their arms training is intense, fashioned after modules of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), say intelligence officers in Raipur and Dantewada. Unlike the Tigers or Islamic extremists, Indian Maoists are yet to use suicide squads for their offensives.

Members of the village militia in AbujmarhThe LTTE connection is being suspected because of the liberal use of landmines and pressure bombs. These were initially used in Andhra Pradesh but are now being deployed in Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand to attack politicians and security personnel.

The Maoists support the LTTE as also the separatist campaigns in Kashmir and the North-east which they term “nationalist movements.” The CPI (Maoist) is listed at 27 on the Union Home Ministry’s list of banned organisations." Speculatory tone, 'connection is being suspected', speculations on link between CPI(Maoist) policy of national selfdetermination. --Soman (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)"
 * http://lankaguardian.blogspot.com/2008/01/orissa-maoists-linked-to-ltte.html is a blog, and blogs are not to be used as sources

--Soman (talk) 12:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Regarding http://www.profilesinterror.com/updates/2006_04_23_archive.html, it appears to be a blog and doesn't say more than that "Finally, the Indian government claims the LTTE is aiding the Indian Naxalite and Nepalese Maoist terrorism and has links to the ISI."
 * The posting of http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050710/world.htm#4 clarifies that the text in the article is a copyvio.

go through website * http://www.spur.asn.au/latest1.htm all the refferences on each article that is posted on there is provided--Jawan101 (talk) 13:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

go throught the Politic website http://rajyasabha.gov.in/resume/206/obituary.htm - it says shri Anand Sharma raised a matter regarding open Press Conference by CPI (Maoist) in a village on Indo-Nepal border on the 14th December, 2005 and its links with LTTE and Maoists of Nepal. and further more. that is from Indian Politic website thats pure Refernce —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawan101 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

This is from the Naxal Maoist Website. and Their Link with LTTE

http://naxalnaxalitemaoist.wordpress.com/category/news/ - Go throught that too --Jawan101 (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

you fail to go through many Refs i provided i can get more and go throught them properly --Jawan101 (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Jawan101, please clearly read WP:RS webblogs, attack sites and websites that are not notable are not to be added to wikipedia. This is clearly a joke and an apparent POV pushing here. Also read WP:FORK which clearly gives proper guidelines. All the sock puppetry and the inability of users to give reference to a respected Source, like BBC, AFP, Reuters or any academic reference already speaks for itself- delete. Sweet and simple Watchdogb (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Wiki Admins i will like to state: User:Soman is being racist and and is a Sikh Extremist that is vandalising and contributing bad faith towards Hindus. (due to past conlflicts between the two)

--Sikol99 (talk) 11:29, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Note Wiki Admins users : Soman and utcursch are both Sikh Extremist that are Racist towards Hindus becuase of past conflicts. They contribute only for Bad Faith towards us. they have multiple accounts as well. --Sikol99 (talk) 11:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


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