Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LaMB


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 08:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

LaMB

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This month-old article on an up-coming film has had requests for reliable references to establish notability since its creation (though tags are repeatedly removed). The only sources for the article are press releases from the production company and a blog. Recommend deletion for lack of Reliable sources for a WP:NPOV, WP:V article. Double Blue (Talk) 02:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   --  Double Blue  (Talk) 02:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.   --  Double Blue  (Talk) 02:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Well, after a quick google search it appears to have a ANN page with a couple realted articles citing that it's real and that's going to be broadcast in multiple countries on a major television channel. I don't see why it wouldn't be notable.- Norse Am Legend (talk) 03:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * They all appeared to be press releases written by the production company to me. Did you find something independent? Double Blue  (Talk) 03:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hm... I think this is independent. The rest do seem to be press releases. - Norse Am Legend (talk) 03:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notability isn't an issue here, since anime with broad international releases are generally deemed inclusion-worthy. The problem is that the writing is awful, and that there isn't much to say about it yet. It can at least support a decent stub until release though. --erachima talk 03:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFF. A few press releases do not make this a notable future film. No objection to creation if/when its actually released next year. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:NFF has a good idea that "information on the film can be included in articles about its subject material". I don't think there's an article on the subject but there is on the production company Animax. Perhaps a smerge there would be appropriate with a break-out article if it ever gets independent sources. Double Blue  (Talk) 03:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merging the page would be non-conducive to presentation of the material, and the page shows clear potential for expansion. --erachima talk 03:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If this were a film based on a manga or anime, then I'd agree a merge would be best. But merging to the production company doesn't seem like a good fit, as we wouldn't normally include "upcoming films" in such articles. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My view still is that this article does not have the necessary sources for a NPOV article and should be removed. However, a slight merge of simply the fact that the film is in production could be stated on the Animax article and this article could be redirected there awaiting better references. Double Blue  (Talk) 19:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Animax as the more notable entity (for now) but, get someone to cleanup the Animax reference section (too much primary source and press release stuff there as well from what I can tell) Jasynnash2 (talk) 11:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. It does fail WP:NFF, which exists precisely for this reason. We know it will be released, but we don't know for certain when, and there isn't much to say yet that isn't speculative. Maybe someone could userfy it until some sources appear. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep.I made this page,and provide the References and also I,take the info from Sony Pictures Entertainment office so if any problem with this page please write in my talk page I will provide the solution--Sumit (talk) • contribs) 17:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * RE: you take the info from Sony. That is the problem. We need a balanced and neutral point-of-view article and independent sources. Double Blue  (Talk) 19:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason why independant sources are required for articles is so the information will be presented with a neutral point of view, yeah, but as of now the only info in the article is facts about its production. There's nothing to be non-neutral or opinionated on. - Norse Am Legend (talk) 21:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep ,There is a lot of info about this movie can be find in ANN.I not take the info from Sony I justify the info from Sony and also this movie is also released in Feb in 2009 as now people want info about this movie and it is main aim of Wikipedia "to provide free knowledge to the people" . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumit sony145 (talk • contribs)
 * Now the info in LaMB does not create any non-neutral points as Norse Am Legend said and also it is the development and productions info with is given in any other movie Wikipedia and There's nothing to be non-neutral or opinionated in it.--Sumit(talk) 03:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.