Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Gran Aventura de Alejandro


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The result was   delete.  Wifione  Message 13:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

La Gran Aventura de Alejandro

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The only coverage I can find of this book is the reference cited. This is a good reference that includes critical commentary, but if there is only one source available I don't think it is enough to prove notability. Specifically, WP:NBOOK says that books must be covered in "multiple, non-trivial published works" (my emphasis). — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 01:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: A quick Google search indicates the book passes WP:NBOOK as a significant subject of instruction. As an example, it's on the 2012 required summer reading list at Xaverian Brothers High School in Massachusetts Cite, see "Incoming Sophomore Reading List". Yet another case of "rewrite, don't delete" here. Faustus37 (talk) 06:08, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It's true that it is the subject of instruction at many US schools. However, if you look at the footnote for criterion 5 4 in WP:NBOOK you will find the following clarification: "This criterion does not include textbooks or reference books written specifically for study in educational programs, but only independent works deemed sufficiently significant to be the subject of study themselves, such as major works in philosophy, literature, or science." This book was written specifically to be studied in foreign-language programs, and so I don't think that criterion 5 applies. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 08:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Which begs the question. Why does an internal policy have a footnote? If it were really that important, wouldn't it be a part of the policy itself? Faustus37 (talk) 09:15, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoever wrote the page probably made it a footnote to save space in the "in a nutshell" box at the top while still providing a link to the clarification. That's my theory, anyway... — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 14:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment These types of nationalistic travel/instruction books have a long tradition going back to Le Tour de la France par deux enfants (France) and The Wonderful Adventures of Nils (Sweden). These two examples were originally written as school text books, but proved so popular they are often read as literature and today considered children's classics (in those countries). La Gran Aventura de Alejandro is of the same genre, but unclear if it has crossed the threshold to literature or classic. There are two tepid customer reviews on Amazon and no mention in any literary dictionaries or encyclopedias. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Since it's a textbook, it can't fall under the classroom part of WP:NBOOK and I can't find anything to suggest that this is a notable textbook otherwise. Nothing comes up on JSTOR or on a google search.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:45, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 12:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per NBOOK. The book has not been the subject of multiple published works, nor has it won a major award or been the basis for a notable adaptation, nor is the author a major historical figure. The book is taught in schools, but as a foreign language textbook, so it does not satisfy NBOOK 4. Barring some "ignore all rules" argument about notability beyond these guidelines, which no one appears to be prepared to make, it can't be deemed notable. Cnilep (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
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