Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Gran Plaza


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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 23:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

La Gran Plaza

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PROD declined in 2009 citing possible sources. Eleven years later, I still can't find sources that establish notability. There seems to be a mall or several (but not a chain) under this name, but they're run of the mill listings. StarM 15:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions.       StarM 15:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.       StarM 15:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 18:53, 12 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary). --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 17:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't help we have one article on one of these, not the brand. eswiki has es:La Gran Plaza Fashion Mall, which is about the one in Guadalajara (and uncited), and es:La Gran Plaza Mazatlán. The ones in León (our article) and Guadalajara are co-owned. Worth noting: the Fort Worth TX mall has an article, La Gran Plaza de Fort Worth, but is not related to the Mexican mall chain. There is also es:Gran Plaza, an actual plaza in Spain, and es:Gran Plaza 2, a shopping center in Spain.


 * As to León, I just found a full 2019 article that describes it as something of a dying mall, having lost its apparently largest anchor, Fábricas de Francia. This 2018 story puts its square footage at 50,000 square meters (538,000 square feet). The occupancy rate was 30 percent when Fábricas closed.


 * I'm going to add these sources and an infobox to the article. Gran Plaza should be a disambiguation page (with "La Gran Plaza" as a redirect), this should probably be La Gran Plaza León, and the sources I've added tell me this will likely meet WP:GEOFEAT on cultural significance. Keep. Raymie (t • c) 02:17, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete here is a summary of the sources:
 * "Pierde impacto el centro Comercial La Gran Plaza" - routine mill coverage of the mall's troubles
 * "La Gran Plaza, nada es para siempre…" - routine mill coverage of the mall closing
 * "Futuro incierto para la Gran Plaza tras el cierre..." - routine mill coverage of the mall's troubles
 * "Cierran Fábricas, sigue Gran Plaza" - nothing here, redirects to home page.
 * "Cierre de Fábricas de Francia deja abandonada la Gran Plaza" - routine mill coverage of the mall's troubles
 * There is nothing that shows this meets GNG or NBUILD.  // Timothy ::  talk  14:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:MILL - run of the mill mall. Bearian (talk) 21:16, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


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