Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laarni Losala


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. As is customary, multiple "votes" from the same person and "votes" from unregistered users have been discounted. Stifle (talk) 08:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Laarni Losala

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 * Improperly made redirect, I say this should be left to others. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 06:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Do not delete the article, the person discussed already received notability.. Jentaps (talk) 07:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.   — bluemask  (talk) 07:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Person's notable only because she's a contestant at a TV show. Unless she becomes notable outside the show, this should be deleted. – Howard  the   Duck  09:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. She is not only a TV Show contestant and a nationwide contest winner, which is actually outside.Eduhello (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC) — Eduhello (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep...Oh sorry is this what you mean...?

People notable only for one event Shortcuts: WP:BIO1E WP:ONEVENT

See also: WP:NOT and WP:BLP1E

When a person is associated with only one event, such as for a particular relatively unimportant crime or for standing for governmental election, consideration needs to be given to the need to create a standalone article on the person. If reliable sources only cover the person in the context of a particular event, then a separate biography may be unwarranted.

Coverage in Reliable sources may at times be extensive and may expand upon the person's background, but information on the person should generally be included in the article on the event itself, unless the information is so large that this would make the article unwieldy or sources have written primarily about the person, and only secondarily about the event. In that case, the discussion of the person should be broken out from the event article in summary style.

Sadly, Laarni is notable in more than one event

The current definition of notable here in wikipedia is: Within Wikipedia, notability is an inclusion criterion based on the encyclopedic suitability of an article topic. The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded."[1] Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular" – although not irrelevant – is secondary.

Significant, interesting and unusual enough to deserve attention.

Isn't joining tons of contest significant. For the interesting part and the unusual part, it is actually rare to see a person who can see almost all genre, which makes her unusual and interesting.Eduhello (talk) 14:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I joined a quiz show. I even appeared for 2 episodes. And I made it to the frontpage of a national newspaper (like an extra in a group photo). That's 2 events. Should I have an article? No. Same thing here. – Howard  the   Duck  16:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Now cool down, okay? Have you read the definition of notable? Significant, interesting and unusual enough to deserve attention.Eduhello (talk) 05:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * THIS is what we mean when Wikipedians say notability. Starczamora (talk) 13:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Can you list down the events the subject is notable other than Pinoy Dream Academy?  Singing competitions during fiestas do not count as notable by the way. Starczamora (talk) 16:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Answer to Comment

Those are two oh her biggest wins if you really want a complete list, just send me a message on my talk page.Eduhello (talk) 05:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Campus Idol (nationwide interschool competition) winner
 * Sing-galing (nationwide competion broadcasted on television by ABC5) runner-up


 * Delete. The subject, as far as I can see, is merely notable as a contestant of PDA Season 2.  Unless she wins the competition, or at least becomes a runner-up (refer to Philippine Idol's winner Mau Marcelo and her runners-up Jan Nieto and Gian Magdangal), there should not be an article in the first place. Starczamora (talk) 16:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete/redirect, better to wait until she wins the Grand Prize PDA2 is over. Too premature to say if/when an article is warranted at this point. --- Tito Pao (talk) 00:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Then why aren't the articles about American Idol Contestants deleted in the first place? They were there as early as Top 10 week.Eduhello (talk) 05:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Arguing based on Other stuff exists does not make it solid. Starczamora (talk) 13:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you really serious in comparing American Idol and PDA? Really? – Howard  the   Duck  16:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep FIestas?Fiestas? Oh sure, I cannot call a nationwide competition a fiesta. Well, when we say nationwide, it's the whole country not only a single municipality, city, province barrio or etc.Theuglyanimal (talk) 05:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. The person in the article is not notable at all, unless she'll won the contest. Or because the person was only famous or popular just when she joined the contest, so that makes her only an "affiliate" of the said show. Furthermore, being a contestant of singing contests, or just because she/he has a great talent in singing, doesn't make someone notable, unless the person had already created a name by herself in the industry. --Fetch dickson (talk) 07:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strongly Keep Due to the Following factors:

1.	She can sing 11 out of 14 of most popular music genres while most people can only sing 2-3 out of 14 of the musical genres. (which I think will qualify for the unusual part of natability) 2.She is not only a game show contestant once that airs for months but at least twice. 3.	Furthermore, she has won a nationwide singing competition and a runner-up in another. 4.	She is already included in the top 6 of the competition. Top 6s are already runner-ups. The exact results are yet to be aired. 5.	Her notability has been explained thoroughly in some parts of her article once you look at it. Click here to see it.Theuglyanimal (talk) 08:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, fails referencing requirements of wp:v and wp:blp: uses WP which isn't a reliable source as source 24 times (possibly with massive GFDL copy/paste copyright violations) and the other 2 sources aren't reliable third party published sources either. The 5 keep votes here is from 2 users. -- Jeandré, 2008-09-07t08:49
 * Maybe you mean three:*Do not delete the article, the person discussed already received notability.. Jentaps (talk) 07:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC) and then me and then theuglyanimal.
 * Oh yeah if the problems are sources, i'll try and check it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eduhello (talk • contribs) 09:04, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll look for another alternative source on the web to replace the WP sources..Eduhello (talk) 09:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Another reason to keep it, journalist has already written an article about her.Eduhello (talk) 05:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The single source appears to be a blog of some sort. Wikipedia does not accept self-published sources. Starczamora (talk) 17:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No it's not a blog. I'm actually surprise that administrators haven't yet made the redirection or the deletion of the page because I with theuglyanimal and Jentaps will most likely lose the case due to us being outnumbered by people who want the article be deleted.Eduhello (talk) 11:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I have already added more reliable sources and replaced the biography sources. I still can't find an alternative source for the genre of the songs which i got from wikipedia. But, I say keep it.Eduhello (talk) 07:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: You're overvoting. Stick only one vote. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 10:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but as said above we are not voting but rather a discussion to why this article must be kept. Eduhello (talk) 12:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the closing admin is wise enough to know all the keeps all come from person. – Howard  the   Duck  12:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That means you and your friend say keep in boldface one time and one time ONLY, that is it; you can make any other discussion/claims you like that is pertinent. MuZemike (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay sorry, never do it again.Eduhello (talk) 11:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.