Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lafrae Olivia Sci


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The result was   keep. --MuZemike 02:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Lafrae Olivia Sci

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Non-notable musician. Does not meet WP:MUSIC and the sources are not reliable or do not establish notability. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 17:04, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Gnews search reveals a plentiful of results. -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 18:06, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * True, but none of the sources I have found seem to establish notability. I'll happily change my position if reliable sources which establish notability are presented. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 18:17, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * keep When I created this page, I had been aware of this musician for over 10 years (which I know doesn't matter as far as notability goes). Looking at WP:MUSIC, point 6 is the easiest to defend (member of two notable groups - Bumblefoot and Burnt Sugar), but she has also gotten coverage under 1 and, I think, 4 (though I haven't been able to locate much). She goes by several permutations of her name which makes finding sources - and what she's up to (for a fan) - sometimes difficult. PermanentVacay (talk) 19:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * By Bumblefoot, do you mean this? Because he seems to be an independant artist who has had a few ensembles - he is probably notable, but the individual ensembles are not. As for Burnt Sugar, the article we have on it says the group has a fluid membership and as many as 40 have been in the group. I do not believe that being in such a group would establish notability for the individual. For criteria 1 and 4, could you provide such reliable sources for us? ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 10:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize this was going to be an ongoing discussion requiring my input - I don't get to sit down at this site that often. Re: Bumblefoot, before Ron Thal took that as his name, it referred to the band - this was about 10 years ago when she was a full time member. I can't find references for this change, as his blog doesn't seem to be around, but if anyone else can find it I'd appreciate that (it should be in his main page too!). I've added a bunch of other references to the article as I have time to find them. Re: "could you provide such reliable sources for us?", I'm a bit confused - I thought wikipedia was a collaborative process. Who is the "us" you refer to, that apparently does not include myself? (I'm not sure I'll be able to respond to this in a timely matter but I will see it eventually. Feel free to also follow up on the talk page here or my talk page. Thanks.) PermanentVacay (talk) 06:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep She's in Hot Caramel with Sheryl Bailey & Irene Cara. 86.44.31.213 (talk) 14:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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