Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lai Xiaomin


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 02:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Lai Xiaomin

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WP:BLP1E and WP:PERP there is no indication that the individual is notable outside of running afoul of the CPC. LaserLegs (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. LaserLegs (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep. I'm concerned that the interpretations of WP:BLP1E and WP:PERP being advanced here are too broad.  Looking at the sources, it appears that the individual was the subject of meaningful media coverage over several years. There was media coverage about the individual's personal life, about media depictions inspired by him, about the initial allegations made against him, and then, finally, the coverage of his execution.  Lumping all of this together as "1 event" does not seem correct to me, particularly given the span of time over which all of this coverage occurred.  That said, because I don't read Chinese and admittedly have a bit of a tough time appreciating the nuance of how significant the media coverage is regarding this individual, my vote is a only a weak one. DocFreeman24 (talk) 01:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Is he really that significant outside of the fact that he was a billionaire?  Tucker  Gladden  👑 02:45, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is not what BLP1E means. (BLP1E is second only to OTHERSTUFFEXISTS as "most misinterpreted/unread/misunderstood argument in deletion discussions".) As DocFreeman says, the coverage given in this article is not at all revolving around a singular event. This is frankly an astounding claim, and the kind of thing someone wanting to make Wikipedia look bad for its poor coverage outside the West would point to. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 02:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep certainly policies such as WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS do not apply here as this article was started back in 2018 and there is a fair bit of coverage. While I am not as familiar with WP:PERP so I won't comment on that (although it seems somewhat similar to the WP:BLP1E argument), I do believe the article passes WP:GNG. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Ongoing, international coverage of Lai Xiaomin and his crimes (since 2018) suggests that he should be the subject of an article due to "sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role" (WP:PERP). There has been persistent coverage in reliable sources and the subject is not a low-profile individual, so WP:BLP1E does not apply.  gobonobo  + c 14:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - notable 173.88.246.138 (talk) 11:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep There exists no article which could (WP:CRIM). At best, we have Corruption in China or Capital punishment in China, where this information would appear very out of place. I find it troubling that Wikipedia is repeating assertions of a dead person's character on the authority of a regime that allows only limited defense, especially when some of those assertions are borderline comical, but that has nothing to do with this nomination.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't think the subject fails either WP:BLP1E (they are not a low-profile individual as they were the chair of one of China's biggest state financial companies) and WP:PERP (as there is no corresponding article to merge to and the sheer scale of the bribery here is unusual and significant). The subject clearly meets GNG. P-K3 (talk) 13:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment looks like I was wrong (it happens a lot). Suggest speedy close as keep then. Sorry if I inconvenienced anyone. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep meet WP:NPOL as delegate to the 12th National People's Congress. VocalIndia (talk) 08:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Clear SIGCOV. Hemiauchenia (talk) 10:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:NPOL requirments. Expertwikiguy (talk) 09:35, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.