Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laide Bakare


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  07:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Laide Bakare

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This actress and business person does not meet WP criteria for notability per WP:GNG, WP:ENT, or WP:ORGSIG. That the article includes statements such as she is "rumored to want body enhancement" and that she "frowned against COVID vaccination payment" is grasping at straws. Netherzone (talk) 20:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Businesspeople, Women, Arts,  and Music. Netherzone (talk) 20:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete fluff article here and all the sources I find about this individual are fluffy, tabloid gossip style stories. Nothing for GNG or Wikipedia. Oaktree b (talk) 20:27, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: A WP:BEFORE search reveal several sources from some of Nigeria's top news sources: Vanguard News, P.M. News , Legit.ng , Premium Times . Some of it is your typical, poorly-written celebrity gossip, but the fact that she gets it is pretty easy proof of WP:GNG. Also, deletion is not an alternative to improvement, and there is nothing here that warrants WP:TNT. Why? I Ask (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * In my BEFORE I found that most of what is out there is PR-placement based on press releases, social media, and other fluff. This "coverage" is trivia, not significant coverage WP:SIGCOV,which indicates it is WP:TOOSOON for an encyclopedia entry. The Vanguard piece is the closest to something substantial, but it is really tabloid puffery like Laide confirmed to E-Daily that she has been wrestling with destiny to fulfil her dreams. - very little substance for a biographic encyclopedia article. The PMNews piece is Native advertising based on a press release and a few press photos, not SIGCOV - scroll to the bottom and it states it's advertising. The LegitNG piece is tabloid trivia Bakare has left tongues wagging; she rocked several outfits, announcing that her social media timeline to share some jaw-dropping photos as she posed for the camera in different outfits, etc. The Premium Times pice is no better, its gossip about her separation from her husband. None of this "coverage" is in-depth coverage of her work as a serious actress or business person. Netherzone (talk) 01:33, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your WP: BEFORE didn't show you any of the numerous awards she had won in more than 20 years of her career? That's surprising. Shoerack (talk) 22:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You are incorrect about that, I always do a BEFORE search and did one for this article. Dubious additions were added to the article several times. It seems the only award actually received was for costumes in a film, others were nominations. It appears to be PR placement, and it is surprising the BON award website itself does not seem to mention her. It's WP:TOOSOON. Netherzone (talk) 20:40, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You did misrepresent her award by claiming that the dress she wore won the BON, which was factually incorrect. You clearly didn't know that "best costume" was an award category like the Academy Award for Best Costume Design until I set the record straight. She received the BON award for her film Jejere. That alone satisfied WP:ANYBIO #1. Yes, I mistakenly took the BON award for another notable award, the City People Entertainment Awards, that she won by stating that she won the BON award for a lead role. But according to sources that I do not consider reliable, she won the award. I didn't include it because I have yet to see a reliable source to establish the claim. That being said, please note that BON and many other notable awards in countries in Africa do not maintain a long list of all awardees. So, I do not understand your point that the award website did not include her name. Shoerack (talk) 00:16, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * And please stop citing WP:TOOSOON . It's not a policy anywhere on Enwiki but an essay, and that essay only applies to " recent events, people, new products, and any other topics about which facts have only recently emerged or are still emerging." In this case, we are talking about an actress whose acting career spans more than 20 years. Shoerack (talk) 00:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * For someone with only 121 total edits it's really impressive that you are so familiar with WP policy, essays, acronyms! It took me a couple years to even find AfD. How did you learn so fast? Netherzone (talk) 02:05, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Enwiki policies are learnable, and they can be mastered in no time, especially important ones such as WP:N. Everything we have written here in the past 7 days revolves around WP:N, its criteria, and its application. Shoerack (talk) 09:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is "we"? Netherzone (talk) 23:10, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You and I and others who have participated in this discussion in the last 2 weeks. Shoerack (talk) 05:56, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:17, 21 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep The subject meet WP:ANYBIO#1 and WP:GNG. No WP: BEFORE was done by the nominator. Shoerack (talk) 21:54, pp17 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak delete There are sources both in the article and presented above. These sources are generally tabloid in nature, however. I'm hesitant to accept these as reliable based on WP:NEWSORG. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Per WikiProject Nigeria/Nigerian sources, the sources in the article are reliable sources. Thank you. Shoerack (talk) 23:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


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