Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lake Orion Baptist School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The main deletion argument was the subject was non-notable, and those arguing keep were unable to effectively counter this. PhilKnight (talk) 17:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Lake Orion Baptist School

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Doesn't seem to be a notable school. No sources, school was founded only six years ago. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I've not yet googled, so to speak, the school but it already fails notability standards. The fact that "The school employs 14 faculty members and two secretaries", probably indicates that the school is unlikely to reach scope by any sort of reasonable time frame. Sourcing is on the poor side. What's up with the edit-warring? Rudget   ( logs ) 16:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with all above plus I note that the article is a vandal magnet with very little legitimate editing going on recently. I did Google them and they appear to be a minor local school with no notability beyond appearing in directories of schools. Their homepage does not contain any info to make me think there is historic significance. --DanielRigal (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —• Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep part of the school includes a high school, and we usually end up keeping those. Cleanup?  Sure.  Add more sources?  you bet.  Delete it?  No.  This is a surmountable problem--the article should be improved and not deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmcdonald (talk • contribs)
 * How can you add what doesn't exist? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Your comment on my talk page came across as a bit rude to me. As to the actual quesiton, User:Friejose below points out that indeed some online sources do exist... not many, but some.  Therefore, sources can be added because they do indeed exist.
 * Are they reliable and/or credible sources? Maybe, maybe not--why not discuss it?  Are there offline sources available?  Possibly.  Would they be considered reliable?  Maybe.  Anyway, I say we keep the article and give the editors time to rustle up these sources and then if they are not found after a period of time, we would then delete the article.  As to its notability, it's common practice to keep pages on high schools:  see WP:WPSCHOOLS and for more detail go to WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines.  You'll find that the consensus is that high schools get an article, and no real reason has been given for this to be different except that it's small.  Before making that argument, please read WP:NOTBIGENOUGH, where it states that notability is not determined by the quantity of numbers.
 * Something to think about.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as per above Rasadam (talk) 18:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google turned up next to nothing as DanielRigal states; in fact, the highest entry is for the school's Wikipedia page, and the school's own website is the only other site of note. --Friejose (talk) 18:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Lake Orion. I am in the process of creating this section and will merge in the key content. TerriersFan (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Question - what will you reference the main points of the school section (not yet created) with? Rudget   ( logs ) 18:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - having thought about Paul McDonald's comment. There are plenty of assertions of notability in the article and time should be given for off-line sources to be found. If they cannot be then a merge/redirect to Lake Orion will be the way to go. TerriersFan (talk) 21:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing notable I can find, it seems to be a small baptist school with no history. delete - GaryECampbell (talk) 00:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per TerriersFan. Redirect if not kept.--Sting  Buzz Me...   23:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.