Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakota Tech High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Lakota Tech High School

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Not even having reliable coverages, notability is too far. Lordofhunter (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and India. Lordofhunter (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep on WP:GNG grounds: This September 2019 article from KNBN which talks about the first local public high school on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, and this August 2019 article from the Rapid City Journal is talking about the same school. The school was given a name after these two articles were written. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:36, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools,  and South Dakota.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not sure about the reliability of your first sources but if see Newscenter1.tv not having any journalist name, above that it is just an announcement by Dr. Anthony Fairbank. 2nd link Rapidcityjounral is again an announcement about the partnership, that too with no journalist name. None of them establish notability. It is not an independent coverage. Lordofhunter (talk) 03:53, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The Newscenter1.tv article is credited to "NewsCenter1 Staff" (and the copyright at the bottom is to KNBN-TV, a local news station) so that should be good enough in terms of determining whether this was written by a journalist. Not all reliable source publications have every article under a specific employee name. Also the portions by Fairbank are in quotation marks, which is exactly what a reliable source should do. Not all of the article is statements by Fairbank. The second one is written by "Journal staff" (employees of the newspaper), and so this should satisfy that it was written by journalists. Rapid City Journal is the newspaper of the area. The fact that the articles are credited to the newspaper/TV station employees shows that they indeed are independent coverage. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:21, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Notability is not satisfied here based on one piece of news. Newscenter1.tv is not independent news at all, heading itself says that it is an announcement. There is no analyse related to this edu institute. We can't declare every institute notable based on its existence, construction and few coverages in local media based on launches and announcements. Lordofhunter (talk) 12:47, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The Noem announcement only applies to the first sentence, as the words "On top of the announcement" are in the next sentence, which means in addition to the announcement. The quotes later in the article are from Fairbank, another person. However, I read Identifying_and_using_primary_sources and this says a news story would be a primary source if there is no analysis. Even if, say, the KNBN-TV articles would be considered primary sources, there is another article by Rapid City Journal which discusses how athletes transferred to Lakota Tech High because it didn't have the COVID rules that other high schools had. This article by the Argus Leader explains how, before Lakota Tech was built, the reservation did not have any physical local public high schools. In that case I think the Rapid City Journal articles have sufficient analysis to be considered secondary sources.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Again it is an announcement, with no analyse or comment by the journalist. The article itself says "Gov. Kristi Noem and Oglala Lakota County School District officials announced". I suggest, lets wait for other editors to share their analysis. Lordofhunter (talk) 11:15, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep - easily meets both GNG and NORG. Neither small-town nor weekly equate to unreliable. 174.212.224.74 (talk) 18:26, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * On what grounds, it is meeting NORG ? Lordofhunter (talk) 11:15, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The Rapid City TV stations and newspapers have covered the school. However, meeting NORG isn't required. So what's your point? 174.212.224.74 (talk) 22:14, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep. Meets WP:GNG, thanks to 's addition of sources, and WP:HEY save. I added a few sources on the talk page, and apologize I have so little time to work on it this week. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 03:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: List of all Sources on the page:
 * 1 olcsd School Website, is not reliable.
 * 2 Argusleader It is not indepth and the news is about the event of "Multiple Native American schools opt to cancel or suspend fall sports".
 * 3, 4, 5 & 7Newscenter1, Argusleader, Rapidcityjournal It is partenership annoncement & Construction update, not independent.
 * 6 Lakotatimes, School Starting timing details, not indepth
 * 8,9 newscenter1, Rapidcityjounral only quotes of spokesperson about finishing 1st year of school, no independence. Lordofhunter (talk) 14:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your source analysis.
 * I use the following guidelines to determine a subject's notability:
 * See Notability for Beginners:
 * and One hundred words:
 * I added these sources to Talk:Lakota Tech High School:
 * Talented gathering continued at Lakota
 * Lakota receives STEM award
 * Please note, the sources exist, even though they have not yet been added to the article, per WP:CONTN: — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 18:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Talented gathering continued at Lakota
 * Lakota receives STEM award
 * Please note, the sources exist, even though they have not yet been added to the article, per WP:CONTN: — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 18:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Notability for Beginners & One hundred words are not the coummity driven guidelines. These are just discussions. It has not been thoroughly vetted by the community, please read first paragraph. Ok, "let's assume" if 2 para is considered as in-depth, then at least those para should be independent, and not based on PR material or just a mention that the schools are getting open. I assume some independent commentary is required. Here, same coverage is exactly in multiple sources. How can we consider this independent? Lordofhunter (talk) 07:50, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment/question The nominator put this in the deletion sort for India, which makes me wonder a lot of things. Lordofhunter, what if any connection does this Native American school in South Dakota have to do with India? Jacona (talk) 12:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops that's done by mistake. Lordofhunter (talk) 12:34, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Whatever the initial state of the article, the additions by Whisper and Eugene provide sufficient WP:RS to meet WP:GNG, so Keep.Jacona (talk) 12:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


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