Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lal Khan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:44, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Lal Khan
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Delete Promotional article for a non-notable figure and self-published author. Most of the article is original research, the remainder is entirely self-sourced (marxist.com and newyouth.com are both run by Khan's organisation, the International Marxist Tendency). Previous AFD was withdrawn without any discussion having taken place. Downwoody (talk) 11:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep Added new sources, including the Hindustan Times, the Daily Times, and the World Socialist Web Site. That should qualify as multiple independent sources. 99.246.142.211 (talk) 01:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note Actually, the first article is not from the Hindustan Times but from something called "Radical Notes". It and the World Socialist Web Site do not meet Wikipedia standards for reliable sources. Downwoody (talk) 04:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was originally published in the Hindustan Times and was republished on the Radical Notes blog. I'll remove the link to the blog if that makes it clearer. 99.246.142.211 (talk) 07:18, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Easy Keep - Passes WP:BASIC per, Comment –  , .  Northamerica1000(talk) 07:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note Lal Khan is a fairly common name in Pakistan. Of the three sources you cite the first and third refer to other Lal Khans, not the subject of this article. This Lal Khan fails WP:Politician. Downwoody (talk) 04:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Changed my above !vote to a comment per the information above. Thanks for the information. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * More sources:  (from The Tribune & Asian Age) 99.246.142.211 (talk) 07:30, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * These sources definitely refer to the subject of this article, who is the author of Partition - Can it be undone? and Pakistan’s Other Story 99.246.142.211 (talk) 07:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: Wikipedia isn't for free advertising. HappyHippo69 (talk) 22:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Leaning Keep – Appears to meet WP:BASIC per, , . Northamerica1000(talk) 23:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, lack of properly independent sources. Guy (Help!) 07:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment – How are the sources in my !vote above not independent? On the contrary, there appears to be an acceptable number of properly independent sources to for this person to meet WP:BASIC. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:44, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep – I belong to Pakistan and have been in touch with The Struggle for many years now. It felt sorry that the article on The Struggle has already been deleted and now article on Lal Khan is under discussion. To add to discussion I would say that Lal Khan is a well known person in Pakistan. He keeps on appearing on well watched TV channels every other day.including the state TV channel owned by Pakistan Television Corporation. He also writes a column on weekly basis in well read "Daily Times" . He is author of many famous books including "Pakistan's Other Story" . So this article must not be deleted without any reason as was the case of The Struggle.
 * Keep - meets WP:BASIC.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep – New references about Lal Khan's political struggle, victimization by Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq extreme right wing regime and exile in Europe. The initial days of The Struggle magazine (the deleted article by Wikipedia) have also been mentioned. The article was published in a famous newspaper The Express Tribune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.153.70 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep – Lal Khan is the only theoritician who claimed that 1968-69 movement in Pakistan against Ayub Khan was actually a revolution. He is the only one in Pakistan who predicted and wrote book about collapse of USSR in 1988 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.73.40.127 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
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