Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lance Naik Hanumanthappa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete article, but encourage creation of a broader article about the avalanche. Comments below show a rough consensus that the hero of the story is only known for his few days of survival under the snow, which is not enough for a standalone article on Wikipedia. However, in the latter part of the discussion, there is also rough consensus that it can be rewritten into an article about the avalanche. Whoever wanting to write an article on the avalanche may ask me for a the article history to be restored to the draft-space or their user-space. Deryck C. 20:06, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Lance Naik Hanumanthappa

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Prod removed without comment. My concern is WP:NOTNEWS. He is only known for surviving an avalanche. No notability beyond this Gbawden (talk) 12:57, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * This is about longest survival seen in the world rarely.117.255.63.90 (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2016 (UTC).
 * — 117.255.63.90 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. WWGB (talk) 02:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Per longstanding policy. Also noting that every single soldier who died in that avalanche is equally notable for giving up their lives in service to their nation.  The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 18:28, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    21:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. No notability here. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Fails WP:GNG.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 13:01, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MEMORIAL. His only notability is dying in an avalanche, this is a very sad way to go but not encyclopaedia worthy. Zerbey (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Had he survived, he'd have likely had a notable career helping explain how. But he didn't. Most people don't. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The disaster itself should have an article, though. And he could be featured in that story. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:07, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep I agree with InedibleHulk because the incident/ disaster shocked the whole nation (India) and this topic may be considered for the medical scientific study that how he was found alive under snow and how a person can be saved. The persons serving under extreme conditions must have a GPS device for the purpose they can be found easily without spending much time in searching them without any clue. This topic is not about a person or soldier, It is about a miracle that in whole world there is no person who is found after 6 days alive with heartbeats. A study how he had survived and how he could have saved and died. Thanks if you keep it as a topic of study. It can be retained a having importance as a challenge to medical science.Drkyt (talk) 15:41, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Considering the fact that his survival for six days in the avalanche at the world's most inhospitable and highest battlefield being termed as a medical miracle, and his subsequent becoming of a sensation and cause for the prayer meetings held all over the nation with a billion plus population(India), i strongly recommend to keep the article. The most important thing here is his death has triggered an intense debate of demilitarisation of the Siachen Glacier both at the establishment and public levels, and could be a potential solution for the Siachen conflict. I just need some time to overhaul the present article. Thank You.--    ~ Irrigator   talk  20:03, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If 140 dead in 2012 didn't persuade the armies to go home, I don't imagine eleven will. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Public sentiment and Diplomacy in India is much stronger and sensitive. You will get to know this once you study the Military history of India.--     ~ Irrigator   talk  02:46, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Many Indians have also been buried for Kashmir. Comes with the territory, and I see nothing indicating India plans to relinquish the claim. This article doesn't even mention a controversy, let alone a ramification. Just a sad story about a slow death. If you seriously want to overhaul it, there's no time like the present. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep : I've added excerpts from the medical bulletins and provided the references. As suggested by some members above, medical aspects of this case surely call for keeping this article. It was also mentioned in media that he was also the Yoga instructor over there. Will add this aspect also, once I get some reference. This adds to the medical aspect. Though it will still take some time for the medical community to decide whether this is record of longest survival under such conditions. --Manoj Khurana (talk) 09:27, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete This article has numerous problems, including WP:NPOV, excessive detail about the treatment process which has no bearing on any of the claims of notability above, and no direct support for such claims. If there is some sort of actual medical miracle here, then an article about that needs to be a source, and the discussion on the page needs to be focused on that sort of newsworthy claim.  Simply saying that someone survived for six days tells us nothing about how, for example, no one has ever survived for more than three days and thus six days is amazing, or whatever; you cannot simply assume that that's an amazing statistic without citations.  This is compounded by the fact that he did not ultimately survive; with that taken into account, this whole story is not nearly as surprising, as it follows a common pattern with hypothermia victims, where the excessive cold puts the person into suspended animation, and they survive a surprisingly long time, only to die of organ failure, dropping blood pressure, etc. during revival (rewarming shock). As InedibleHulk mentioned above, if there is a place for any of this information in Wikipedia, it is likely as part of a page about the larger incident here, which seems to be the noteworthy item. 76.220.30.55 (talk) 09:48, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep- It is an important topic useful for researchers.    ~ Dr. Raj kumar   talk   —Preceding undated comment added 06:38, 14 February 2016 (UTC)  Ambox warning pn.svg — Duplicate vote: Drkyt (talk • contribs)  has already cast a vote above.


 * Delete Sad event, which might deserve an article, but the articles subject itself is not notable. Also - as pointed out - the article has multiple other flaws, including NPOV. -- Hybris1984 (talk) 13:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep This was an remarkable incident, so this article will be informative.
 * 'Suggestion' In case if this article is considered to be removed, kindly consider this suggestion, this article can be changed as 'about this incident' and the current content of this article shall be made part of the article 'about this incident' for ex: Siachen avalanche survivor, Siachen avalanche, etc. Markonal (talk) 18:46, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.