Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lancelot Bavin


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Lancelot Bavin

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A non-notable alumni of Newington College who started a primary school. The school appears to be small and non-notable because it closed down as soon as Bavin retired (Bavin and his wife appear to be only people running the school). There is no specific achievement in pedagogy disclosed. Some later-notable people went to the school when they were in primary school, notability is not inherited Adsfvdf54gbb (talk) 11:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:ARTN--O1lI0 (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2017 December 10.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 12:14, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * delete, what makes the subject notable? From what I can see, there is a gaping big hole before wp:GNG would be met.  Schwede 66  09:47, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Founding a school is not a sign of notability, especially when it closes down with ones own ill-health. I am less than convinced we should have an article on the school Bavin founded, but there is no evidence that he himself meets any of our notability guidelines for academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:51, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Other than WP:EXISTS I cannot find anywhere sufficient to support WP:NEXIST for GNG. Aoziwe (talk) 09:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't have time right now (and not sure I will have access because this was many decades ago), but it might be worth researching if Bavin passes WP:POLITICIAN. I found a source that he was mayor of the City of Willoughby for "several terms." I imagine with his brother being Premier of New South Wales, he might have also had some clout in the Nationalist Party. Jack N. Stock (talk) 06:04, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. What use is there in saving the buildings without the man who created the school and ran it. If nothing else the Bavin family should be created to save this important contribution to spiritual, political, migration and educational history of NSW. There may not be consensus for this view but I hold that Mayor of a major town centre is notable by itself. Castlemate (talk) 08:48, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable schoolteacher. Longstanding consensus that suburban mayors aren't inherently notable by that fact alone. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:34, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not much to establish notability here. He certainly doesn't pass WP:POLITICIAN himself, and merely being related to Thomas Bavin doesn't do much either without the coverage to support it. Frickeg (talk) 10:56, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment nothing of note from New Zealand NealeFamily (talk) 06:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I have tried cleaning up this article, given my interest in mayors, added emphasis on his political career as well as a reference cleanup. That seems to be the limit of what i could usefully add, unless his time as a headmaster was particularly noteworthy (which I'm not sure it is). Not sure as to whether this is now able to pass, but perhaps this could be merged into the Mowbray House School page (should that also pass AfD)? Siegfried Nugent (talk) 23:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)


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