Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lane K. Akiona


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. Johnleemk | Talk 15:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Lane K. Akiona

 * Non-notable church official. Rmhermen 16:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

*Delete Non notable. I'm very sorry if this harsh sounding phrase sounds like a critique of the subject or the author. This is not intended. Though the exact rule on notability is difficult, there are clear guidelines to help, and a lot of precident. Then we check for consensus. I understand he is Vicar forane. The question is what other grounds for notability exist? Is he an author or often quoted in newspapers? Obina 22:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree with Wikipedia administrator Rmhermen's remark that the comment that Father Akiona is a non-notable church official. Where exactly in the Wikipedia policy is the term "non-notable" defined? He is a vicar forane in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Honolulu.  Until the phrase "non-notable" is clearly defined, I respectfully submit that your request for speedy deletion of this article is arbitrary and capricious.  Aloysius Patacsil 18:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * My being an admin has no bearing on whether the subject is notable nor on the process of deletion. Please read WP:NN for a discussion of guidelines. Rmhermen 19:15, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I have read the guidelines at WP:NN and still respectfully maintain that your request for deletion is arbitrary and capricious. I maintain that the existing guideline is insufficient as to dismiss my article as non-notable; the guideline itself states that there are no objective criteria for notability besides Alexa and Google tests. I have authored many articles on Catholicism in the western United States and the Pacific Rim to understand what would be considered notable.  I have annotated my source materials for others to confirm the verifiability of the article. Finally, the article while obscure to you, is not necessarily so to readers interested in the subject matter.  Other than dismissing my work on Father Akiona using a phrase such as non-notable,  please articulate your specific objections using objective criteria.  Aloysius Patacsil 19:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, see the following:
 * Honolulu Star Bulletin, February 16, 2002, "Renewal Among the Ashes"
 * Honolulu Star Bulletin, January 1, 2001, "Palolo Fire Victim Remembered As Dedicated Friend"
 * [http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050724/NEWS22/507240366/1100/LIFE Honolulu Advertiser, July 24, 2005, "Vatican Ambassador tours Kalaupapa"
 * Honolulu Advertiser, April 8, 2005, "Priest Here Finds Saying "Our Pope" Hard Habit to Break at Mass"
 * Honolulu Advertiser, April 1, 2004, "Hawaii Loses Its Bishop" Aloysius Patacsil 22:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Good arguments from Aloysius Patacsil. Akiona is a bit of a public figure in Honolulu and is frequently cited in the press. -- JJay 23:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Helpful information. Great to add some of this to the main article in a neutral sort of way.Obina 00:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn priest. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.