Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lanner and District Silver Band


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep per absence of delete preferences. Non-admin closure by Skomorokh  03:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Lanner and District Silver Band

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Article with no independent sources on a local amateur band who once came third in a competition. Creator is a new user with no edits other than in respect of this subject. Absent reliable independent sources establishing notability, it needs to go. Guy (Help!) 11:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment before acting too hastily on this one, please read User_talk:Orangemike. This isn't a new article, it's not a creation by that one editor. We do not need to act over-hastily on this: no-one thinks this is a good article as it stands, but it has sat there for years as it was, there's no need to treat it as an urgent spam removal. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Please keep this article or merge it with the Lanner, Cornwall article. Brass/Silver bands are an important part of village and town culture in Cornwall. I hope to provide a photo of the Band Room, shortly. I have no personal interest in this band but love the genre. Vernon White . . . Talk 17:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:MUSIC - "placed in a major music competition". Sourcing certainly should be improved - hence the message to that effect on the article's talk page and the relevant local Wikiproject. That the creator is a new user is emphatically not grounds for deletion (unless biting the newbies is now regarded as a good thing), and I find it hard to understand why an admin with Guy's experience should apparently think it is. DuncanHill (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A few sources turn up in a Google News archives search (although the texts of the articles are sadly not accessible through my own database), and I added two other references. I'd say it's enough to squeak by WP:N notability. Keep. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 02:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm no fan of WP:MUSIC. It's too focussed on commercial record releases in the US market (WTF is a "chart"?) and it ignores most forms of music that aren't Western mass-market. In the case of the UK brass band scene though (and User:Famousfieldy/Portishead Town Band‎), I'd suggest that WP:MUSIC is simply the wrong category anyway. These bands are more significant as an aspect of a local social network than they are as creators of music. Their notability is related to their village or factory community, not the quality (or abject lack of) of their output. Leyland, Grimethorpe or Black Dyke would remain notable if they couldn't play a note straight. In the case of the smaller or less-polished bands, this link with the community is even more important. If that community is notable, then a band with strong links to the identity of that community is also notable.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.