Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laois Intermediate Hurling Championship (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The arguments made by the keep !voters here are very weak, and all of them were discounted to some degree. Night of the Big Wind's speedy keep vote is based on the claim that this is a senior competition, but he/she offers no proof of this apart from the fact that he/she lives in Ireland, which is clearly not acceptable. Milowent's "per" vote is discounted for the same reason. Wikishagnik's rationale is that only an expert could tell if this is an senior competition, and so therefore we should just "lay off the policies a little". Unfortunately, WP:BURDEN doesn't afford us that option. The remaining delete votes focus on the lack of reliable sources, and no attempt was made to refute that argument. &mdash;SW&mdash; verbalize 20:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Laois Intermediate Hurling Championship
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Sorry to renominate so soon, but let's get this right. This is a local junior competition, without any coverage in reliable sources. The article itself states that the winners qualify for the Junior Championship elsewhere. Laois is one of 32 county boards in Ireland, maybe their top competition is notable, I highly doubt their junior second division holds notability. No notability has been established, reasons for keep in the previous AfD included "senior tournament", which is neither asserted or proven by the article; and "it meets notability for gaelic games", although the notability criteria in question only covers players who have played at senior inter-county level. Although this article doesn't specifically cover players, the level is neither senior not inter-county. For these reasons, I am nominating this article for deletion. Cloudz 679 19:48, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep This not a junior competition, this is a senior competition. But thanks for warning, I corrected both championships from junior to intermediate level. Night of the Big Wind  talk  20:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. How do you know it is not a junior competition? It was marked here as a junior competition on the date the article was created, 22 November 2006, remaining described as such until being changed by you within the last two hours. I must admit I am no expert at hurling but the third link at the article appears to be a list of Wikipedia articles of hurling clubs, the fourth link is clearly the source of the information at the article, and the other two links do not clearly support the article. In total, there is no apparent reason for the existence of this article. Fails WP:GNG. I might also add that speedy keep is only valid when the nomination is unquestionably an attempt to vandalize or to otherwise create disruption. Please try to assume good faith. Cloudz 679 22:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it make sense to you that I live in Ireland as reason that I know it? See my userpage! Another reason for een speedy closure is when the nomination is based on a clear mistake or (doesn't seem to be the case here) gaming the system. Night of the Big Wind  talk  22:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you living in Ireland has anything to do with establishing the facts here. Cloudz 679 08:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ow, and I guess just nobody noticed that it was wrongly linked. At least, I did not notice it until you pointed me at it... Night of the Big Wind  talk  23:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 14:05, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep per User:Night of the Big Wind.--Milowent • hasspoken 17:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Delete Keep of the Wind's 'proof' that it is a senior competition does not come from a reliable source. If not even the most basic of facts can be sourced, then I somewhat doubt the notability. However, I will look into this more before going as far as recommending delete . Has recieved trivial and passing coverage in local news, but nothing more. 143.92.1.33 (talk) 03:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Not a very strong (or even correct) vote but the picture painted by WP:NGAELIC, WP:SPORTSEVENT and Notability (sports) is all so confusing that any sports event between hurling clubs at an international level cannot be proven to be not notable. So is this event a League game? Who knows! Is this an international Championship? The name says so! Only an expert in the game could go to extreme technical details and point out otherwise, but then most will come back and say that the article might be rewritten but should not be deleted. No, their is no significant coverage of this event. Most articles on the web are hosted by fan sites and clubs. But all that is OK. As long as its a sports related article, lets lay off the policies a little. --Wikishagnik (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Although there is no assertion that this is at international level. Being a sports article is not a reason to keep. Cloudz 679 09:18, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete as failing WP:GNG, unless substantial reliable sources can be found that cover the subject in depth. If new sources are added to the article, ping my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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