Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Largest companies in the United States by total revenue that are not listed on the Dow Jones Industrial Average


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Largest companies in the United States by total revenue that are not listed on the Dow Jones Industrial Average

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Subject matter is pointless. We know there are large companies that are not part of the Dow. Its self explanatory. There are other large indexes such as the S&P 500, Russell 2000 and Wilshire 5000 that are more diverse and include more companies. The Dow Jones Industrial Average includes  some of the 30 largest companies in America. Not every single one. This page is not needed. Endtewq (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I stated that already S51438 (talk) 04:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So whats the point of having the page then, if the subject matter is self explanatory? Thats almost like creating a page called the  "List of largest foreign companies by revenue that are not part of the Dow" . No point to make that page either right? Because the Dow is composed of U.S. companies only. I fail to see the reason to create a page that has content which is understood already from info on other pages. We are aware that there are companies that are fairly large in scope that are not part of the Dow. Endtewq (talk) 14:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But which companies? this article answers that question, is complete, and... well... let's keep it. btw, what's with the over-emphasis in the article of the DJ only including some companies, only some!!!!1, and this AfD being about 'already knowing that'? --Arkelweis (talk) 18:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. It's quite pointless to have this article. And generally, "The Largest/Smallest/Most/Fewest X which are not Y" is almost certainly going to be a poor topic. patsw (talk) 03:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem here is a compounded form of set complement lists. "Companies not part of the DJIA" is a set complement.  As such, it has the standard problems of set complement lists, articulated at AFD many times.  This article intersects that with "30 largest companies in the U.S.".  But there's no explanation of why that latter set has any meaning.  Why 30?  Why not 90?  Or 1000?  Or 15000?  This is a set complement intersected with an arbitrary set whose membership criteria are apparently plucked from thin air.  The question "What's the point?" is a valid one and has yet to be answered.  So:  What's the encyclopaedic relevance of intersecting these two sets?  Uncle G (talk) 05:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:57, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete . I was about to vote keep, as I like it, but Uncle G has a better argument. Bearian (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.