Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lariss


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 05:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Lariss

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No real indication of notability, as defined by WP:MUSICBIO. Two of the sources are tabloid trash – one a not very quotable interview, the other a promotion for her video. This is a PR-type thing, and in any case is about the G Girls. This tells us she won some prize at the Media Music Awards (note the red link) – the trouble is, there's no hint that that might be a "major music award", as contemplated by point 8 of the guideline. Rounding out the "sources" is this pure puffery from a radio station. A flavor: "like any artist with potential, Lariss started singing at age seven; there followed a long series of participations in olympiads and competitions, ending with diplomas and trophies".

One final point: the lead alleges that her main song was charted in all sorts of places. The source, such as it is, simply doesn't attest that. It says merely that she "is successful" in several countries, which could mean anything. - Biruitorul Talk 14:40, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:09, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:09, 28 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete does not meet our inclusion criteria for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:45, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Fails WP:NMUSIC. Seems WP:TOOSOON. No significant coverage, just bits here and there which is common with early development. SW3 5DL (talk) 02:23, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it fails WP:MUSICBIO. Media Music Awards is an important music award in Romania. Also Lariss has been placed in rotation nationally by multiple major radios and music TV channels; + her song "Dale Papi" is in top 10 Romania's 2015 end-year chart. Some 3-5 MUSICBIO criterias are meet. XXN, 09:39, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't actually know that Media Music Awards (again, note the red link) is important. Neither do we know about the national rotation. As for the chart claim, the fact is that Romanian Top 100, which closed in 2012, was the last official Romanian chart. While Media Forest does have a chart, it has no recognized standing outside itself. So I remain of the opinion that the claim to notability is rather thin. - Biruitorul Talk 15:18, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, a red link on Wikipedia means nothing [for us]; Wikipedia it's not a reliable source for itself. About the importance of Media Music Awards you can read here or here, or their self-presentation: . Other top medias also wrote about Media Music Awards, and the top artists and bands didn't ignored these awards - one more indication on award's reliability. Perhaps, Media Music Awards is even above the Romanian Music Awards (RMA is organized by an single music TV channel; MMA analyzes the rotations on multiple radio stations, including Kiss FM, Europa FM, Magic FM, Pro FM, Radio 21, Radio Zu, National FM, and Radio Romania Actualitati, +TV stations 1 Music Channel, Kiss TV, MTV Romania, and UTV). About MediaForest as an official country chart we can't say certainly that it's unrecognized; probably nobody yet searched about this. XXN, 17:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course we don't have articles on every notable topic, but the fact that sixteen years into our existence, and with articles on dozens and dozens of music awards, this one is missing, is at least of passing interest. However, even if we tentatively accept that the ceremony is significant, I still wonder whether "best new artist" (as opposed to best female/best male) really counts as a "major music award" (point 7), especially when no independent media reported on this in any kind of depth. - Biruitorul Talk 20:33, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 21:09, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


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