Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larry L. Richman


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Larry L. Richman

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A social media expert and publisher who has managed to get profiled on Wikipedia for several years with little basis that I can see. Sources used in the article are not independent or reliable and I can't see any online. If he's been mentioned in the Charlotte Examiner that doesn't amount to general notability. Sionk (talk) 02:24, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * I dunno - he seems more notable as the founder/CEO of Century Publishing than as a social media expert. I'd actually heard of some of the books they've published. Perhaps the article should be about the publishing company? ~Adjwilley (talk) 17:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. He would only be notable for the books he has personally authored under WP:AUTHOR, not books his company published. His most popular book appears to be Improving Your Project Management Skills, but I can't find serious book reviews only a dodgy vanity review by "PM World Journal". Similar problem for Project Management Step-By-Step. Usually if authors have book reviews, they'll quote them on the author website or Amazon page - no reviews are quoted. That leaves GNG sources and don't see any. Since there are no special notability rules for business people, founding a company is not considered inherently notable. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 20:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)




 * KEEP. He seems to be a noteworthy author, since he has personally authored 13 books ( see http://centurypubl.com/Richman_Larry_publications_author.html ), plus articles in professional magazines and journals. He seems to fit with the Notability Guidelines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability He has had coverage in independent sources, quoted in the Salt Lake City newspaper Deseret News. The Google search https://www.google.com/search?q=%22larry+richman%22+site%3Adeseretnews.com&oq=%22larry+richman&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j0l3.4103j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 shows 139 references to him in the Deseret News. Seems notable enough to keep the entry. Rebuilding a huge website like LDS.org is also impressive. -- Bennett908 (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Per GNG, coverage in the same news outlet usually counts as a single source. But with that much coverage one has to ask if he has ever been a columnist or worked for Deseret News, have friends or family there or some other connection? In any case it's probably at best one source. Other sources? -- Green Cardamom (talk) 23:48, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * KEEP. His books seen legitimate. Several were published by AMACOM, one of the world’s largest publishers of business books. See http://www.thefreelibrary.com/netLibrary+and+AMACOM+to+Simultaneously+Release+eBooks+and+Print...-a059610265 and http://www.librarything.com/publisher/258/AMACOM I verified his books at amacombooks.org. Two of his seven books on project management are college texts in their second and third editions.

Here are two examples of published reviews of his books http://projectmanager.com.au/skills/review-improving-project-management-skills-larry-richman/ and http://www.maxwideman.com/papers/book_reviews_3/book2.htm

Richman was recently quoted at length in the article “Entering the world of LDS blogging” in the DeseretNews.com http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865589490/Entering-the-world-of-LDS-blogging.html?pg=all His blog has a monthly readership of 36,000.

He was also a guest speaker at Brigham Young University (https://video.byui.edu/media/Larry+Richman+%22Learning+through+Life's+Trials%22/0_6g3uxzea ) That’s fairly notable.

The bottom line is that his entry has been whittled down over the years so that now it looks pretty lean, but I think he’s substantial enough to not delete the entry. The notability guidelines say that “For articles of unclear notability, deletion should be a last resort.” So, even if his notability is somewhat unclear, I don’t see that as sufficient reason to delete the entry. In fact, it seams reasonable to re-introduce some of the stuff that has been taken out over the years where it’s from verifiable sources. Bylanrichter (talk) 22:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC) 
 * Comment - Some other sources:,  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per Green Cardamom. Sportfan5000 (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as an author. Some of his books are indeed by one of the most impt publishers in the field, and "Project management step by step "  alone is in  1,495  libraries   a/c worldcat.  Some of the other content does need trimming.  DGG ( talk ) 07:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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