Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Later Sui Empire


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The result was   delete.  → Call me  Hahc  21  02:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Later Sui Empire

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Given the single source (see under external links) and the inconsistency of dates with other articles, I strongly suspect this is a hoax. Q VVERTYVS (hm?) 14:49, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The Article is fact. Uni-Eropean also counted the diplomat from Hou Sui, the prove is Marcopolo(?), and Sir Edmund Halley (?), and the most prominent is Zheng He visit to Barcelona and Rome with stated at the Treaty that Mongol defeated. —ADHZ07111989 (talk · contribs), 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Not Hoax. When the actual time line is Song->Nan Song->Hou Sui. When it is hidden and secret build by the founder to avoid coup, it's has legacy. This also prevented the false Mandate of Heaven of Chinese Hua Xia, since another is only peoples community that the Yuan still war again the Nan-Song and later the Hou Sui. Historical record of World said that this Empire existed (according to the Arabian, African, Indochine, Indonesia, Mongol, Russia and probably Japan and Korea. And when the Shun is actually a kingship under Hou Sui which conducted screet policy again the Ming community.·  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADHZ07111989 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't ever Delete. The time line of another version hegemony can not be simply uses, please appreciate the traditional history, since another faction historian have the some record.· — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.77.208.110 (talk) 06:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC) — 36.77.208.110 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete. The source makes it clear that the information in this article isn't true. —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 15:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete per A11: "Obviously invented".  Unreliable medium (a wiki) and unreliable source (a site about alternate history), thus completely failing WP:RS.174.3.125.23 (talk) 05:33, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Let this dynasty collapse - I read about Chinese history in school, and I can safely say this is a hoax (the Sui Dynasty was pretty short lived and only had, if I recall correctly, two emperors). Alternate history is not notable. Anyone can make alternate history (for example, I could write an alternate history where Dewey defeated Truman and that the Soviet Union never collapse but instead embraced full-blown capitalism). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- A quick check on History of China indicates that the period dealt with here was during the Ming Dynasty.  The article has one citation apparetnly to another Wiki-type source.  I do not know Chinese hisotry in detail, but this is either grossly overstated or pure rubbish.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -Non-notable alternative history. The empire is described as ruling Serica, which seems to be semi-mythical. Orser67 (talk) 01:34, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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