Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Latigo leather


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Nomination withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 08:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Latigo leather

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There is not a single reliable source to be found for this product. Every source included in the article, and every source to be found in a web search, is an outlet trying to sell this product. It's clear that the product exists and is widely distributed, but I fear that it is impossible to write a neutral, well-sourced article about it. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions. Owen&times;  &#9742;  14:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep and fix every western saddle on the planet has a latigo. It is probably possible to find sources in older print hardcopy books, though these commercial sites used in the article are actually pretty accurate. This kind of info is sort of oral history and has few sources.   Montanabw (talk) 14:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment Commercial sites may be accurate, but we have no way of knowing that because their motivation is less to provide accurate information and more to sell goods. The kind of information that is "oral history with few sources" is not really suitable for Wikipedia, based on its requirements for reliable sources. If you can find information in print that is written more from the standpoint of and industrial handbook and not a sales catalog, that would be awesome.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm seeing some perfectly acceptable older sources, like this one.— Moriwen (talk) 15:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn Apparently my search did not properly include books that might have been useful. Google books does, in fact, show several promising sources. These should definitely be used in place of the promotional sources currently used. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:59, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: Coverage and in other sources given here in the AfD. Can build this out past a DICDEF.  Oaktree b (talk) 16:28, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: And coverage of how it's made here Oaktree b (talk) 16:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: I did a search on Google Books and found reference to the production process in several books on "country living" and tanning. I'm certain that all of the information in this article (maybe not on specific weights and vendors, but plenty more relevant to the topic) can be found in Latigo Leather (ISBN 9780823026500). However, I only have a limited preview of it online. There is definitely enough information on this topic to keep it and it has borne mention for more than a century. Recon  rabbit  00:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


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