Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laubegast Niederpoyritz Ferry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Nja 247 09:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Laubegast Niederpoyritz Ferry

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This German ferry service fails the GNG. Appropriate online searches in both English and German did turn up no useful sources. A request for speedy deletion (A7) was declined by a non-admin. After that, I redirected the article to the service's operator, Dresdner Verkehrsbetriebe, which has been reverted by the redirected article's creator. For similar reasons, I am also nominating the following articles:

-- Goodraise (talk) 17:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - In my opinion the article(s) do (now) meet the GNG. The request for speedy delete was denied because it seemed to have been raised without fully reading the article (it cited the notability requirements for an article on a company or organisation, but the article is clearly about a piece of transport infrastructure). I too have searched the web, and my non-online resources (aka my library), and come up with three secondary sources, which are now referenced. -- Starbois (talk) 17:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Further comment. The movement of the article content to Dresdner Verkehrsbetriebe skewed that article. Having seperate articles also makes more sense where there are (as in this case) multiple access routes to the information. For example from the Elbe article. It is messy following what looks like a link to an article, and ending up in a section of an article that in total is not particularly relevant to your access. -- Starbois (talk) 17:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The articles still fail the GNG, because no matter how many reliable, independent sources are added, if they can only be used to cite the services' locations, that does not constitute significant coverage. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess that all comes down to how you read Significant coverage is more than trivial but may be less than exclusive. The Bradt guide (see ) certainly does more than give location; it explains why ferries are important, gives times, what can use and fares. But then I'm an instinctive inclusionist, I think WP long outgrew comparisons to paper-style encyclopedias. -- Starbois (talk) 10:15, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  17:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect/merge all 3 articles. WP:NOT a directory. Coverage of something like this needs to demonstrate, say, cultural or historical significance, not ferry times. Rd232 talk 04:17, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Significant transport service. We keep articles on them. Dresden in a major city, and we would no more combine these articles than we would combine NYC subway routes.   DGG (talk) 20:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Each of the three articles is about the service of a single ferry, as opposed to a route traveled by several. If each NYC subway and bus had a route of its own, on which only that specific vehicle traveled, would each of them be entitled to an article? Look at the picture. It's not a huge ship either. It's a boat the size of a large car. And as far as "major city" goes, the area depicted doesn't exactly strike me as down town. - My closest grocery store is located in a major city, has ten times more customers a day than that ferry, and I can certainly find reliable sources to cite its location and busines times. Does that mean you would vote "keep" if it were AfDed? -- Goodraise (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A city includes more than downtown, be it NYC or Dresden; & the size of a ferry vehicle is not the determining factor in notability. DGG (talk) 02:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If it isn't size, then what makes a transport service "significant"? Also, what makes a transport service in a non-downtown area of a city more notable than a transport service in a rural area? -- Goodraise (talk) 02:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.