Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Launie Anderssohn

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The result of the debate was delete. Eugene van der Pijll 21:45, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Launie Anderssohn
I suggested that this should get pitched along with The Dissonants, but it didn't; so I'm renominating it now. Non-notable band; gets just 46 Google hits and nothing on allmusic. Nomination withdrawn. Withdrawal withdrawn, because the sockpuppet-to-legitimate-vote ratio has gotten too high for comfort. Bearcat 19:44, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. (I live in the band's hometown & I've never heard of them). Dottore So 14:27, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I've heard of this band. They released an album last year, and the radio station that I work at received a promo copy (some idiot even called my show to request it).  As much as I'd like to see this tossed for personal reasons, I'm going to have to vote keep.  CJCurrie 19:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * CJ, I'm not sure that your reasons to keep are reasons that are acnowledged in WP:MUSIC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that your thinking is that since you've heard of them and they've released an album, then they are notable enough to be kept, which isn't the case. What's under contention as far as I can tell is whether they're non-notable or if having a member who was part of The Dears is enough to merit an encyclopedia article. --Blackcap | talk 19:05, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * The band is fairly well-known (or perhaps notorious) at the campus radio station where I work. In casting my vote, I extrapolated that other campus/community stations in Canada are probably familiar with this band as well.  In any case, I'm reluctant to delete a band that has released a full-length CD recording, and has distributed it to stations outside of their hometown (the worthlessness of their music notwithstanding).  The WP:Music guidelines only provide criteria for bands to be judged as indisputably notable; they don't cover all of the grey areas.  CJCurrie 19:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn band vanity. -- Etacar11   03:31, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete no Allmusic, no sign of meeting WP:MUSIC. --TheMidnighters 06:41, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of notability provided by the article. Gamaliel 04:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Votes from unregistered and very new users
'''Please note that Wikipedia has rules around how deletion votes are conducted. If voting on this page is your first-ever contribution to this site, your vote WILL NOT COUNT. The sockpuppetry is to stop NOW. Also, note that Wikipedia is not a directory of bands "trying to get a break". It's an encyclopedia; to be on here, a band has to already have gotten that big break.''' Bearcat 18:30, 23 August 2005 (UTC) keep - 70.49.202.51 02:30, 23 August 2005 (UTC) It seems to this Launie listner that all y'all haters out there are just scared. You're scared of the language they use and the feelings they give you at the tips of you pant pockets. But don't dismiss their importance in a sea of vastly unoriginal music and song lyrics. They are musicians and poets and lovers and future fathers and future lovers of each others kids. keep --204.50.131.2 21:31, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * For anyone who has never heard this band, let me tell you that they have some of the most original lyrics you will ever hear and blend it with an incredibly diverse range of music from country to rap funk and even calypso. They have toured 2 countries, and multiple outposts. A definite keeper. What a thrill it is to find them on this site. keep.--69.70.169.157 01:32, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You and your friends can forget about this little game of yours; VfD votes by first-time users of the site are not counted. Bearcat 04:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You could, however, improve the chances of keeping the article by improving it. Farquard 17:56, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course if they have toured two countries then they fulfill another criterion for notablity (assuming those countries wern't, say, Barbados and Grenada). - Farquard 18:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Launie Anderssohn rocked my socks off the first time I heard them. In addition to accomplished musicianship, these fun-loving fellas kept me smiling with their sometimes raunchy, always hilarious lyrics.
 * Launie Anderssohn is in the middle of changing the way music is played and listened to and appreciated. They are the best, or maybe second best, band in Montreal, no question.  While everyone else is regurgitating the same old crap over and over and being lauded as brilliant, Launie is creating some really incredible rock music with some really smart lyrics.  keep--24.203.43.147 04:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Best band ever. No joke. Incisive, devicive, and inherently awesome. Keep your eyes open for this band, cuz they're gonna rock your underwear right outta your pants before you even know what happened. I could go on for days, but alas I must go. Do not delete this band, they should never be forgotten. keep (Unsigned vote by, first edit)
 * """keep""" --204.19.199.102 16:03, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Harmless fun! What's the problem, young good guys from Montreal trying to get a break """keep"""--216.113.203.187 16:22, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * And this has exactly what bearing on whether they belong in an encyclopedia or not? Bearcat 22:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

this band rocks """keep"""--24.202.237.179 16:58, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Important band on the Montreal indie scene. On top of which, WP:MUSIC says that a band should be considered notable if one member was once part of an "extremely notable" band . - Farquard 19:28, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * User's second edit.
 * Like everyone and their brother they've played the Green Room, Barfly and Swimming. How is that notable?
 * Okay, I withdraw the nomination. I overlooked the Dears connection. If you're familiar with the band, though, could you expand the article a bit so it doesn't look so much like a deletion candidate? Bearcat 19:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * When did The Dears become extremely notable? The Dears are notable, but not extremely so, therefore every single band each member has ever been with or will be with is not necessarily notable, especially if they don't meet any of the other guidelines. --TheMidnighters 09:41, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Can you actually quantify the line where one can realistically mark a clear division between "notable" and "extremely notable"? I sure as hell can't...to me, the line is contextually relative to the genre in which the band operates, rather than an objective scale that ranks all bands by the same measure. They're no match for the notability of The Beatles, granted, but within the specific context of indie rock in the 2000s, The Dears can certainly be described as "extremely notable". Bearcat 18:04, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If a band has widespread popularity like the Beatles, then a side project (like George Harrison's solo work) is worthy of an encyclopedia. If a band doesn't have that, (as in the case of the Dears, having put out a few albums but, as far as I can tell, not know very much outside of Quebec), then while they themselves may warrant an encyclopedia article, their side projects may not. Anyway, in the realm of, say, Star Trek fandom, obscure bits on machinery might be considered notable, but would never make its way into an encyclopedia because it's too irrelevant to most people. This seems like music's version of that. It just doesn't hit enough points in WP:MUSIC to warrant staying. From going on their web site, they don't even seem to have a record label, saying only that you can get their music at Le Subalterne, a local record shop. They're a band who has one semi-notable person and nothing else. Maybe a good band, but not something for Wikipedia. Delete. --Blackcap | talk 17:32, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * To put it more simply, I think TheMidnighters' comment above says all it needs to. --Blackcap | talk 19:09, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

The Dears are considered "extremely notable" across Canada having had a near-cult following on many college campuses for years. There is no better guage for "notable" in indie-rock's transient and poor-student-driven world. Launie Anderssohn are genre groundbreakers misunderstood by the dull, and celebrated by intelligent witty townsfolk and hard to thrill musicians alike. As in, they have their own sound and message and media package. As in, they are influential. The fact that they play at smaller clubs should not make them less noteworthy for the history of musical progress. Wikipedia is a boon to music writers everywhere, let's keep it that way. The article should be expanded to contextualize them more distinctly """keep""" --24.80.81.229 06:50, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Proof by "because I said so". Can you show independent web references (newspaper articles, coverage or chart placement in Chart or exclaim!, etc.) which prove that they're notable? If not, they belong on skwik, not here. Bearcat 17:41, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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