Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Cavender


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is that notability has not been shown, and that sources are questionable  SilkTork   ✔Tea time  21:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Laura Cavender

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Non-notable individual, fails WP:NMODEL, WP:CREATIVE and WP:BAND. Ref #1/bodyspace & Ref #6/ReverbNation are in self-edited listings/forums so are not reliable sources, Ref#2 is from a free-subscription magazine, Ref #8/btsp is a repeat of Ref #2 and cited refs do not prove championship assertion. Shearonink (talk) 16:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep, she was also in this magazin: American Curves published. Maybe I will found more. mabdul 15:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * kandy (magazine) cover model mabdul 15:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * and even on the Playboy cover. mabdul 15:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * and more Mixed (magazine) and as can seen here also at VBLAZIN. (changed vote to speedy keep) mabdul 16:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That 'Playboy cover' is a notice with a picture that she had a DJ gig at a Dallas TX nightclub, it is not that she had a Playboy magazine "cover".  "Kandy" magazine is a free-subscription (given away) magazine, the link you posted above is to a 'twitter' type of page at that magazine and it seems mainly to be a website for women to post pictures on. "Mixed" magazine (from their own website) is "an online men site featuring the hottest models" and I can find no subscription information for it.  Cavender does have racy pictures posted at various websites...does every lingerie model on the Internet get their own Wikipedia article? Shearonink (talk) 16:29, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Kandy says that they get 100k visitors a month.
 * and RKPubs the company behind American Curves claims to have 100k printed magazines (dunno in which time/per issue?). mabdul 16:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there any independent verification of these asserted subscription/website visit figures? Shearonink (talk) 16:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - I can understand why this was put through AfC but there are too many grand claims in the article with no evidence at the moment. Most of the sources are user submitted non reliable websites, as the OP pointed out. There's not enough evidence provided so far to convince me she's actually been published in print on enough occasions to me WP:NMODEL. You would think that with all her various careers paths she'd meet WP:GNG, so I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Sionk (talk) 11:53, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 13:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)




 * Comment - Tons of hits all over the Googlesphere. While most of them are fluff, I'm convinced Cavender is a public figure as a model. (PI) I've tried to de-peacock and de-familiarize the prose. I doubt QBs in the Lingerie Football League get a free pass here, although they probably both make them and receive them, but she was one in 2009, for what it's worth. Most intriguing is this find: "You’ve Come A Long Way, Baby: Language in Sports—Can Women Compete?" by Laura Cavender, Communications, Culture, and Technology Program, Georgetown University. Yes, I know that's nothing that goes to notability, may not be the same person, but for what it's worth... It seems the most fruitful vein of Really Borderline But Maybe Usable web sources are in the sports-model rather than music industry direction. I'm not spotting the necessary couple sources to make this a for-sure keep, but I'm certainly inclined to believe they are out there. Carrite (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. No significant coverage found.--Michig (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is more than one person by the name of "Laura Cavender".  The person that Carrite is referencing is not this asserted model, but a public relations professional.  Presently Director of Strategic Communications at University of Pennsylvania.  Past positions at Georgetown University Medical Center, Georgetown University, Congressional Quarterly and American Red Cross. Shearonink (talk) 01:19, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
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