Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laura Figueroa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. with no prejudice to re-creation if Spanish-language sources are found. JohnCD (talk) 17:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Laura Figueroa

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PROD was removed with no statement on the talk page or improvement otherwise. Appears to fail GNG based on research on the talk page and by the original PROD nominator. Perhaps others can show citations for her Dressage awards. SarahStierch (talk) 17:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I tried to move it to AfD, therefore to discusse it here. Now, according to user, this person is notable, but just in need of foreign (in this case, Spanish) sources.--Mishae (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - no evidence of notability and I'm very concerned about the conflict of interest. If there are Spanish language sources that attest to her notability, it's rather surprising that Spanish wikipedia doesn't already have an article about her. Deb (talk) 17:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Not every article exists in other languages, so you can't just say that because the article is not present anywhere else, it means that she is not notable.--Mishae (talk) 22:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read what I said, rather than trying to twist my words. Deb (talk) 10:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Your words are as follows: If there are Spanish language sources that attest to her notability, it's rather surprising that Spanish Wikipedia doesn't already have an article about her, means exactly what I stated. I write numerous articles on numerous Russian physicists, but they don't exist in Russian Wikipedia, doesn't mean that they are not notable.--Mishae (talk) 14:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:05, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - no evidence of notability and conflict of interest. Hafspajen (talk) 14:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I won't object to deletion, but then what was it doing on [Wikipedia:Requested articles/Biography/By profession AfC]? Plus, since Timtrent won't respond I will need to post the discussions myself. I need to apologize, I miss read it. However, I still think that Spanish links are a must. I also need to mention that COI is no longer an issue, as of December of this year. Also, all of you need to read Notability section on its talkpage, and only after that make your RfDs if you please.--Mishae (talk) 18:42, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You ask "what was it doing on [Wikipedia:Requested articles/Biography/By profession AfC]?" The answer is: User:LauraFigueroa333, who is the subject of the article, put it there herself. Deb (talk) 20:52, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, does she have a right to do it? If not, someone from the AfC crew have overlooked it.--Mishae (talk) 01:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL, yes, anyone can make a request but you are expected to look for proper references before you create an article, regardless of whether it's been requested! Deb (talk) 15:20, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. The statement Mexican Dressage Champion ought to set antennae twitching that she is notable, if only for this item. Notability requires only that it can be referenced, though it is far better if it is referenced, obviously. Fiddle   Faddle  19:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But it does appear that this cannot be referenced. Mishae claims the existence of Spanish-language sources but cannot point to any. Deb (talk) 20:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The reason why I can't point to any is because I don't know Spanish, not because I am lying. Same thing goes with the article that you deleted first, Moustafa Youssef. As Randykitty said, he is notable. I just can't find any bio in English other then CV and GS. Unfortunately, I am not, know all guy, and therefore need someone to find those sources. I know only Russian, English and a hair bit of Ukrainian, (non of those languages that I know fit here). Same thing goes about my articles on French, Italian, German, Israeli, Greek, and Arabic notables. I don't know any of those languages but I believe that someone who knows them might come for help... For example, I wrote an article on notable Japanese oncologist, someone from that nation inserted a verifiable text in Japanese. Another example was me, without knowing that language translating a portion of a site, and didn't got my article to be nominated for deletion (can't find which one).--Mishae (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No one is suggesting that you are lying. I have spent some time looking for references but cannot find any.  Unless a Spanish-speaking contributor wants to join this discussion and find the references for us, the claim remains unverifiable.  The only reference you ever had for the information in this article was Laura Figueroa's personal website. She referred you to anccemex, the organisation she says organised the Mexican dressage championships, so I searched their website and there is no reference to her: see .  For the moment, the claim is unverifiable and so the article should never have been created. Deb (talk) 09:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I suppose my keep is more that this truly ought to be sourceable, but appears not to be at present. My comment on the article's talk page applies regarding her art vs her horsemanship. I only care from a technical perspective, but not that much. Fiddle   Faddle  09:54, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete- no sufficient English-language sources. This page is better off in the Spanish Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skylar Jean (talk • contribs) 11:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Sources do not have to be in English in order to be valid. It is not even preferable that they are. Fiddle   Faddle  13:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I personally prefer them to be in English, that way our readers can understand what the sources are saying, however, if I don't find the English language ones, I surely use the foreign press.:)--Mishae (talk) 01:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that's the best I could do: Laura Figueroa, just added another source which is probably unverifiable.--Mishae (talk) 01:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 03:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)




 * Delete - I can find no evidence that she meets either WP:ATHLETE or WP:ARTIST. Being a national champion in a sport does not confer notability.  I can find no evidence for her competing at the highest level of her sport.  Note that the article indicates the championships were in classical dressage versus modern dressage which is an Olympic sport.  I can also find no evidence of her meeting notability as an artists.  Although there may be Spanish language sources out there, I didn't run across any. -- Whpq (talk) 23:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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