Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauren Cisneros


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The result was delete and redirect to Miss Colorado USA. Sarahj2107 (talk) 11:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Lauren Cisneros

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Cisneros won a state Miss USA pageant. That is all she has done that is even almost close to making her notable. Nothing else she has done makes her even remotely close to being notable. Due to the way coverage works, this is essentially being notable for one event, and there are the same problems with this type of biography of a living person notable for just one event (normally notable is a bit of a stretch) as others. There is just not enough good reasons to keep this article. John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:09, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: but question: Can we redirect to a Miss Colorado article?  I think we really DO need to get NPAGEANT created, because at the rate things are going, all these state pageant winners are starting to have individual articles created, and I can see this would be a big problem.   Where would an NPAGEANT SNG be best created?  within NMODEL?    Montanabw (talk)  18:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 07:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment Actually most of the 2005-2007 state pageant winners have articles, later years and earlier years very rarely do. To take a state I picked totally at random Miss Mississippi USA has articles for the winners in 5 years, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2013. The 2013 winner was the first Bangladeshi-born winner of "that title" if the article on Paromita Mitra is read at face value, it seems she is the first Bangladeshi-born Miss Mississippi USA, which hardly seems worth noting. If she is the first State Miss USA for any state, or even the first state winner of any one of the top two or three or so beauty pageants to be born in Bangladesh, this might be notable, but I still have my doubts. What has become clear is there is just not enough attention to people winning these contests to even have new articles being created on the new winners, let alone creating articles on every winner all the way back to 1952. We have not even come to a clear ruling on whether winnign Miss Teen USA makes someone notable. I have my doubts as to whether Kristi Addis is notable. The article is backed by a link to IMDb, which is not considered a reliable source, and an article written by Addis, but maybe her title is high enough to presume notability, and I have not yet done a search to see if I can find more sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Regional beauty contest winners are never going to be notable unless they've went on to bigger things. KaisaL (talk) 02:50, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and then only Redirect (because there is no actual substance, this should not be kept)as still nothing at all for her own notability. SwisterTwister   talk  03:01, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Colorado USA The subject is best known only for winning Miss Colorado USA. The other participation is not notable. Accordingly, while this doesn't deserve a separate article, I would suggest a redirect to Miss Colorado USA. This is a better solution as the target page already lists the subject in the winners' list. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:33, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Colorado USA; valid search term where the subject is mentioned at. North America1000 01:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


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