Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurens Pluijmaekers


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The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 19:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Laurens Pluijmaekers

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Contested PROD, where editor added primary and other non-independent sources. Subject is a player who is on a team that has won several awards for tournament play in a first-person shooter. Much of the individual's notability, therefore, is from his team. Furthermore, the current sources are the subject's personal profile, facebook page, and info from the team the subject played on. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 04:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Article creator added the following to the talk page:
 * hey, lauke is probably the greatest Unreal tournament player ever, right up there with players like Gitzzz and winz. he should have a wiki page so when people search for him it would be easy to read about him, as e-sports certainly is getting bigger. and the community needs it resource. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 04:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Professional gamers can be notable. However, when only three non-Wikipedia Google hits come up, things are not looking good.  Sources in article are not reliable.  Therefore, doesn't meet WP:GNG Bgwhite (talk) 06:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment – there was a typo in the name of the subject, Plujimaekers instead of the correct Pluijmaekers. I've corrected this. After correction, there are more Google hits including at least one reliable source, suggesting a possible marginal notability. Additionally, the name is sometimes spelled Pluymaekers giving further hits . The subject also has an article on the German Wikipedia. --Lambiam 09:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep - Good coverage at webwerlde (where the surname is spelt "Pluymaekers"), further verification at BBC News, Sohu. Perhaps not quite the significant coverage that the WP:GNG asks for, but I'm also considering the additional kinds of criteria given by WP:NSPORT. Marasmusine (talk) 20:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: those variant names and new refs need to be in the page not the AfD. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:26, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Question I'm prepared to accept world championships in anything as notable, but I am unclear what of the various tournaments listed have that status. The various Wikipedia articles are of no particular help that I can see. Perhaps what we really need is an article about these competitions in general.  DGG ( talk ) 03:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * He took gold in Unreal Tournament 2004 at the World Cyber Games in 2004, which, I think, qualifies as a world championship. --Lambiam 07:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep – sufficiently notable, as evidenced by coverage in independent reliable sources. --Lambiam 07:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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