Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lawrence DiCara


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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Lawrence DiCara

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DiCara is an unsuccessful political candidate and an attorney. The article seems more like a CV. I can’t find third-party sources discussing him, only op-eds or other pieces that he has written, or passing mentions. Nevertheless, he has authored a book about an important time in history, so I can see potentially keeping him due to that. I’m also unfamiliar with his stature in Boston, so I’m hoping other editors who may be more familiar with his importance can provide references or other reasons to keep him. LovelyLillith (talk) 16:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment calling him an "unsuccessful political candidate" isn't quite correct, he was on the Boston City Council for 8 years. That isn't enough on its own to meet WP:NPOL though. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 23:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete city council members are generally not default notable, the sourcing is not enough to show notability otherwise.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Boston is one of those cities where a councilmember may be notable if there is sufficient information available about the subject. In this case, we are looking at a subject who served in the pre-Internet age, but the subject remains used as political commentator in the news in 2020. --Enos733 (talk) 20:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 20:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Boston is one of those internationally prominent global cities where we do typically accept that city councillors can be notable enough for Wikipedia, as a rule — I'll grant that the coverage present in the current version of the article doesn't exactly add up to enough, but the problem is that since his primary term in office was 1972-81, any additional sourcing won't necessarily Google and will instead have to be retrieved from news archives. So I checked newspapers.com and got 2,028 hits, which is more than enough. As always, we do not have any rule that our sources always have to be web-published contemporary news coverage — we are allowed to cite print-only sources, such as pre-internet newspapers and books, so topics whose preponderance of coverage would have been 40 or 50 years ago rather than last week are not prevented from being in Wikipedia just because their names don't Google well. Bearcat (talk) 21:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 00:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, Boston is just notable enough on an international level for it's councillors to pass WP:NPOL in my view. Devonian Wombat (talk) 02:11, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication at WP:NPOL that councillers of certain cities are inherently notable. Unless the sources, whether print or online are presented, assumption cannot be made that the subject would pass GNG. --Ab207 (talk) 09:48, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - city councilman of a world-class city, the literal Hub. Bearian (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


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